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cyborg909 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:09 AM

World Twenty20 2012 : Former players criticise Pakistan's exit | Cricket News | ICC World Twenty20 2012 | ESPN Cricinfo

Pakistan's exit from the World Twenty20 has drawn criticism from several former players. Having restricted Sri Lanka to 139 in the semi-final in Colombo, Pakistan were beaten by 16 runs. The team has qualified for the semi-finals in each of the four World T20s so far, winning the title in 2009 and going down to India in the final in 2007.

The inconsistency of Shahid Afridi and Imran Nazir prompted former fast bowler Aaqib Javed, who has also been Pakistan's bowling coach, to question their place in the side. Former captain Zaheer Abbas and legspinner Abdul Qadir were surprised at the decision to exclude allrounder Abdul Razzaq from the playing XI in the semi-final.

"I don't know why these players don't show the sportsmanship and walk away themselves as he should have gone after Mohali semi-final [in the 2011 World Cup] against India"," Aaqib said about Afridi. "He had scored fastest hundred 16 years back, it's the past and it has nothing to do with the present. I don't understand why Imran Nazir is still there despite previous several unsuccessful comebacks and this is yet another one."

"It's been 12 years that Imran has been playing around the national team and he's yet to settle. In a player's career, a one-time sacking is enough [for one] to realise but as many as nine comeback [in his case] are still not enough to learn a lesson," Aaqib added.

Former fast bowler Sikander Bakht echoed similar views about Afridi and called for dropping other senior players in the side as well. "Its time for a change and drop Imran, Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, and ensure they don't come back again."

Razzaq was selected in the squad after a gap of nine months, but he played just one game in the World T20 this year, scoring 22 off 17 balls in the Super Eights win over Australia.

"I don't think Abdul Razzaq has been treated fairly and given the respect he deserves as a senior player with many match-winning performances to his credit," Qadir said. "There was no way you could go in to the semi-final without Razzaq after the way he performed against Australia. Unfortunately the truth is he has never been treated properly by the team management and we paid the price today."

Abbas said the captain Mohammad Hafeez had made some poor decisions, leaving out Razzaq being one of them along with not trying Kamran Akmal as opener. "The batsmen didn't play according to the situation and pitch conditions. I thought 140 was gettable in the match but the execution was missing, and Hafeez got out at a very crucial time. He should have finished off the game."

cyborg909 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:11 AM

Look I understand they were all tried and tested but we never got a chance to built T20 team which we should have done post 2010 semifinal loss. It would have been stupid to send young team which would have been lost out in group stages.

These guys were best intl players we had and moving fwd most of them gtg.

Lahoriii · #3 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:33 AM

^ no sorrows at the loss, really. i agree though with some of these players that razzaq > than nazir and should have been playing in his place.

AHMAD\ · #4 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:44 AM

Ok I am bit recovered today.

Let me tell you one thing to these couch critics, "efff off"!! (except Zaheer Abbas and Qadir)

This is the best team that can be put together for this tourny, just like 2011 WC team was the best team assembled from available and deserving talent. These couch critics have never done anything significant for Pakistan and are now on media finding cheap publicity. Look we all are disappointed but instead of bringing positive and constructive criticism, all media is doing is taking cheap shots. I posted Kamran Khan show, the guy is nothing but he came up with such ferocious and ultra-definitive criticism against Afridi and Pakistan team that even I was shocked that "Is some disaster struck that I didn't know about". Criticism of Afridi is due and I hope he takes it well, and shouldn't hang his boot from here and instead try to fight back and show the world once again the player he once was. But calling out for such definitive statement is just baffling. Total tomfoolery in my opinion.

That same Geo Media group who used to worship Afridi right and left is asking for his head. Now Afridi should know how these scumbags go about there ways. As Majid Bhati said few days back "Jo chamakta hai wohi bikta hai...". They have no journalistic integrity of any sort, that's why PCB was right in banning players from talking to any media. These fuckers will go after anyone and for anything.

Then they are criticizing Hafeez for being unapologetic and fully backing Afridi, Malik and Akmal. Give me a break, WTF do you want? Want him to throw his star players under the bus? so that you get few headline stories. No good captain ever come out in press conferences and throw dirt at his star players, particularly when they are also struggling with bad form. Razzaq wasn't used properly, he could've been handy I agree, may be Malik/Nazir could've been replaced by Shafiq, apart from that there is not a single player on Pakistani bench that could've replaced anyone in starting XI. Hafeez made critical mistakes as a captain throughout the tournament, and in such a highly competitive tournament it's hard to recover from that. That's why you need a smart captain. Look at SA, look what always had happened to them....#1 team, everything dead right and yet they choke year after year, tournament after tournament. But they don't throw their players under the bus or replace the captain as a jerk response. Hafeez has to learn from here, he has to adopt ways to fight for win instead of being defensive and passive. I agree the pool of match winners in our camp is thin, but consistency is the biggest match winner. If talented players like Nasir Jamshed, Asad Shafiq and Junaid Khan will have consistent opportunities in future, they'll become your match winners. Media is Pakistan has become a second hand version of Indian Media, which is irresponsible, inaccurate and far from any constructive adjudication.

cyborg909 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AHMAD\

Ok I am bit recovered today.

Let me tell you one thing to these couch critics, "efff off"!! (except Zaheer Abbas and Qadir)

This is the best team that can be put together for this tourny, just like 2011 WC team was the best team assembled from available and deserving talent. These couch critics have never done anything significant for Pakistan and are now on media finding cheap publicity. Look we all are disappointed but instead of bringing positive and constructive criticism, all media is doing is taking cheap shot. I posted Kamran Khan show, the guy is nothing but he came up with such ferocious and ultra-definitive criticism against Afridi and Pakistan team that even I was shocked that "Is some disaster struck that I didn't know about". Criticism of Afridi is due and I hope he takes it well, and shouldn't hang his boot from here and instead try to fight back and show the world once again the player he once was. But calling out for such definitive statement is just baffling. Total tomfoolery in my opinion.

That same Geo Media group who used to worship Afridi right and left is asking for his head. Now Afridi should know how these scumbags go about there ways. As Majid Bhati said few days back "Jo chamakta hai wohi bikta hai...". They have no journalistic integrity of any sort, that's why PCB was right in banning players from talking to any media. These fuckers will go after anyone and for anything.

Then they are criticizing Hafeez for being unapologetic and fully backing Afridi, Malik and Akmal. Give me a break, WTF do you want? Want him to throw his star players under the bus? so that you get few headline stories. No good captain ever come out in press conferences and throw dirt at his star players, particularly when they are also struggling with bad form. Razzaq wasn't used properly, he could've been handy I agree, may be Malik/Nazir could've been replaced by Shafiq, apart from that there is not a single player on Pakistani bench that could've replaced anyone in starting XI. Hafeez made critical mistakes as a captain throughout the tournament, and in such a highly competitive tournament it's hard to recover from that. That's why you need a smart captain. Look at SA, look what always had happened to them....#1 team, everything dead right and yet they choke year after year, tournament after tournament. But they don't throw their players under the bus or replace the captain as a jerk response. Hafeez has to learn from here, he has to adopt ways to fight for win instead of being defensive and passive. I agree the pool of match winners in our camp is thin, but consistency is the biggest match winner. If talented players like Nasir Jamshed, Asad Shafiq and Junaid Khan will have consistent opportunities in future, they'll become your match winners. Media is Pakistan has become a second hand version of Indian Media, which is irresponsible, inaccurate and far from any constructive adjudication.

While I agree with most of things you have said, players like Imran Nazir, Sami, tanvir, malik basically whole kinda squad gtg.

I thought Afridi could go till 2015 wc but looking very hard as he lost his drift and batting is getting worst and worst, his expierence alone would be handy for next T20 wc. I seriusly think need new captain and brand new team. Specually seamers

AHMAD\ · #6 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cyborg909

While I agree with most of things you have said, players like Imran Nazir, Sami, tanvir, malik basically whole kinda squad gtg.

I thought Afridi could go till 2015 wc but looking very hard as he lost his drift and batting is getting worst and worst, his expierence alone would be handy for next T20 wc. I seriusly think need new captain and brand new team. Specually seamers

But then how many chances have you given Hafeez seriously. He was never the understudy of Misbah as the concept of VC never materialize under Ijaz Butt. All what he learned was from Misbah and Afridi (domestic and intl). He rarely lead his teams in domestic. Even in yesterday's game Malik and Afridi were proactive in the field, giving him all sorts of direction. I think he needs time. Problem is Afridi is down, Malik is down....who is gonna tell him how to be better??? Nobody. He has to pretty much do it on his own.

cyborg909 · #7 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 05:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AHMAD\

But then how many chances have you given Hafeez seriously. He was never the understudy of Misbah as the concept of VC never materialize under Ijaz Butt. All what he learned was from Misbah and Afridi (domestic and intl). He rarely lead his teams in domestic. Even in yesterday's game Malik and Afridi were proactive in the field, giving him all sorts of direction. I think he needs time. Problem is Afridi is down, Malik is down....who is gonna tell him how to be better??? Nobody. He has to pretty much do it on his own.

I dont want hafeez anywhere near the team the guy is never ever gonna improve batting wise, in all formats he surely is worst to open in T20 and little pressure he goes in shell.

I want new captain new team.

Vohrabhai · #8 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 05:03 AM

problem with Afridi batting is, he needs to change his batting style. These days spin/fast bowling has become an art and many new techniques/variations have been introduced.... afridi is a forward stride player, who likes to take one step forward and play the stroke full face. Well, if there is any variation in the ball (afridi will get off guard). Same thing happen against Srilanka 'Herath' delivery - the wrong one and boom he is bowled.

So a slight batting technique switch will help Boom Boom Afridi. Even though he is a pathan and dont dare/care to learn so all depends on his mental strength to humble himself, come to nets and change his technique or else simply announce RETIREMENT. The choice is his only.

cyborg909 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Vohrabhai

problem with Afridi batting is, he needs to change his batting style. These days spin/fast bowling has become an art and many new techniques/variations have been introduced.... afridi is a forward stride player, who likes to take one step forward and play the stroke full face. Well, if there is any variation in the ball (afridi will get off guard). Same thing happen against Srilanka 'Herath' delivery - the wrong one and boom he is bowled.

So a slight batting technique switch will help Boom Boom Afridi. Even though he is a pathan and dont dare/care to learn so all depends on his mental strength to humble himself, come to nets and change his technique or else simply announce RETIREMENT. The choice is his only.

a session with miandad and he gotta go back to abdul qadir to get his mojo back

Kai_Fr · #10 (**permalink**) 10-05-2012, 05:10 AM

They are right on Afridi, man he's been in cricket for 10+ years and can't bat properly...