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Give Mohammad Amir a chance, says Shane Watson

Give Mohammad Amir a chance, says Shane Watson
Shane Watson, the Australian all-rounder, believes that the banned young Pakistani fast bowler, Mohammad Amir, deserves another chance in international cricket.

The 20-year-old cricketer from Gujjar Khan burst into the global arena during the ICC World T20 2009, held in England, immediately playing a huge role in his team’s title triumph.

Later on, the left-arm rookie proved his credentials in the other two formats of the game and was regarded as one of the finest young talents in present day sport.

Unfortunately, Amir, along with his fellow fast bowler, Mohammad Asif, was found involved in bowling deliberate no-balls in the Lord’s Test during Pakistan’s tour of England in 2010. The two bowlers and the then captain, Salman Butt, were later banned from competitive cricket for lengthy periods of time.

Watson, who is considered to be one of the world’s leading all-rounders these days, is of the view that Amir was a teenager when he committed the mistake and the International Cricket Council (ICC) should give him the benefit of doubt because of his inexperience.

The Aussie cricketer hopes that Amir returns to international cricket sooner or later, calling him one of the best young players of the recent times.

"I probably feel for him more than anyone because he’s only a young, naive and innocent young guy. Unfortunately he’s caught up with something. but I think he deserves a chance and allowed back into international cricket after serving a ban for spot-fixing because he's a great young talent," said Shane Watson.

Apart from Watson, a number of current and former cricketers from all across the globe hold a soft corner for the budding cricketer.

The list includes the former Indian captain, Rahul Dravid, who revealed earlier this year that he was a great fan of the left-arm fast bowler and prayed that he returns to the international fold.

"It's been disappointing as [I am] someone who loves the game, and loves watching young talent come through. We all want him to come back at some stage and I don't know whether that's. It's going to be a challenge," Dravid expressed.
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I think Amir should have atleast one more chance, he is young and talented, and must be ashamed of his mistake...
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i want amir back in action as I want some serious bowling challenge from pakistan for our batsmen as it used to be (which is now seems to be a thing of past).

If they come to india this december I want this guy in pakistani squad otherwise I don't see much competition from this pakistani lineup
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i want amir back in action as I want some serious bowling challenge from pakistan for our batsmen as it used to be (which is now seems to be a thing of past).

If they come to india this december I want this guy in pakistani squad otherwise I don't see much competition from this pakistani lineup
Never underestimate the heart of a champion!

Although Amir's comeback will be a huge boost but what we have right now is pretty awesome as well. The dynamics and strategy of Pakistan bowling attack has changed. But still I am confident with this bowling attack, they are inexperienced but not something to be counted off. We played with same in WC SF against IND and able to restrict arguably one of the most gifted batting line up to under 260 in batting friendly conditions. Had it not being for the perennial problems of batting and fielding, the result easily could have been different.
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Never underestimate the heart of a champion!

Although Amir's comeback will be a huge boost but what we have right now is pretty awesome as well. The dynamics and strategy of Pakistan bowling attack has changed. But still I am confident with this bowling attack, they are inexperienced but not something to be counted off. We played with same in WC SF against IND and able to restrict arguably one of the most gifted batting line up to under 260 in batting friendly conditions. Had it not being for the perennial problems of batting and fielding, the result easily could have been different.

i agree with your thoughts but mate we are facing things like Imran, wasim, Waqar and Shoaib for last 25 years and current pakistani bowlers are not even 25 percent of those and I find current indian batting lineup the best of all time

I might be wrong as cricket is very unpredictable sport

But i really want this amir guy in india pakistan series

I want to see the competition between two young bloods aka Virat and Amir.
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I find current indian batting lineup the best of all time
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This Indian batting line is the best in one thing for sure ... "To have their asses handed over to them soon as they step out of Asia".
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i agree with your thoughts but mate we are facing things like Imran, wasim, Waqar and Shoaib for last 25 years and current pakistani bowlers are not even 25 percent of those and I find current indian batting lineup the best of all time

I might be wrong as cricket is very unpredictable sport

But i really want this amir guy in india pakistan series

I want to see the competition between two young bloods aka Virat and Amir.
well, he's not coming back. May be in future....that too is doubtful at the moment. I am not looking at that chapter.

But I liked what I see in Virat, when he pummeled Pakistani bowling in Asia Cup. I do want to see more of him in bowling friendly conditions though. Pakistan has the history on their side as the only country with revered Fast Bowlers who were hailed, matured and shined under batting friendly conditions. This wasn't the case with that elite WI bowling line up of 70s and 80s. I think and it's just my prediction that Pakistan has to outperform India as a "team" to win the series in December because on individual matchups India easily had advantage, and by far a big advantage. Pakistan has to win the game tactically instead of on talent. Pakistan has to understand that talent pool isn't as deep as it used to be but they can still be competitive and give them a realistic chance of win. Prime example would be the way they played in WC 2011. There were no individual performers, but we topped the group and excelled to SF on team performance. I must add that Misbah cannot afford to be defensive against Indian batting line up, he needs to know well ahead about his team's strength and weaknesses, and how to utilize them accordingly.

And lastly, before that December series Pakistan might play against India in U-19 WC. You might get a peak of Zia-ul-Haq there, the newest left armer who is supposedly the next "up and coming" talent. There is Sami Aslam as well who is in impressive form, and if you remembered last WC you must be aware of Babar Azam as well.
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This Indian batting line is the best in one thing for sure ... "To have their asses handed over to them soon as they step out of Asia".

You are talking like your team have done wonders outside asia. Compare our teams record with yours in last decade. Your team is not able to defeat these white's in UAE while we whitewashed them.

Your team get thrashed by even srilankans and now see how good we are thrashing them.

check our records in last decade, we were the only team that was pain in the ass of aussies.

and what's wrong winning in asia, every team have benefits in their home conditions only we asian cry after that. If these teams (white in your thoughts) are real champions than I would like to see them beating india in india as you expect the same from Indians.

This kind of mentality won't take your team any further.

Only loosers find excuses in other's victory

Praising your enemy require a big heart and I really appreciate that but you are the guy always look after safeguards whenever your team get defeated against us and always find excuses in india's victory.

But thank god there is only few guys out there in this forum.

best of luck to your team in future

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well, he's not coming back. May be in future....that too is doubtful at the moment. I am not looking at that chapter.

But I liked what I see in Virat, when he pummeled Pakistani bowling in Asia Cup. I do want to see more of him in bowling friendly conditions though. Pakistan has the history on their side as the only country with revered Fast Bowlers who were hailed, matured and shined under batting friendly conditions. This wasn't the case with that elite WI bowling line up of 70s and 80s. I think and it's just my prediction that Pakistan has to outperform India as a "team" to win the series in December because on individual matchups India easily had advantage, and by far a big advantage. Pakistan has to win the game tactically instead of on talent. Pakistan has to understand that talent pool isn't as deep as it used to be but they can still be competitive and give them a realistic chance of win. Prime example would be the way they played in WC 2011. There were no individual performers, but we topped the group and excelled to SF on team performance. I must add that Misbah cannot afford to be defensive against Indian batting line up, he needs to know well ahead about his team's strength and weaknesses, and how to utilize them accordingly.

And lastly, before that December series Pakistan might play against India in U-19 WC. You might get a peak of Zia-ul-Haq there, the newest left armer who is supposedly the next "up and coming" talent. There is Sami Aslam as well who is in impressive form, and if you remembered last WC you must be aware of Babar Azam as well.
Even i would like to see some upcoming bowling talents in u-19

You will also be able to find some very good batting talents like
"Unmukt Chand" some people see him on the line of virat already

Virat won us U19 WC in his captain ship and i expect the same from Unmukt

your post are always very sensible and i'd like to chat you more in future

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Even i would like to see some upcoming bowling talents in u-19

You will also be able to find some very good batting talents like
"Unmukt Chand" some people see him on the line of virat already

Virat won us U19 WC in his captain ship and i expect the same from Unmukt

your post are always very sensible and i'd like to chat you more in future

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actually, there are a couple of really good players coming up through the u-19s...there is this left handed opener sami aslam....the boy is a gem....and he could be the next saeed anwar....as far as quicks are concerned we have 17 year old zia ul haq...already clocks 140+ though he'll need to learn a little about swinging the ball....mohammad talha is a 24 year old who is quick and tall....lets see if he gets a chance....
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Problem is not that pacers are not coming through, One look and one can see rahat ali, zia ulhuq, azizullah, talha just to name few, similarly spin department is not bare either with usman qadir, raza hasan and yasir shah, some young batting talent coming along too, the problem fundamentally is there are no mentors.

IK had sarfaraz and other pacers plus he played for oxford, IK mentored Wasim and waqar, who in turn mentored akhtar, which was able to contribute whatever he could to asif and others. Aamir was an exception a rarity he was complete bowler from get go all that was lacking was expierence but he was smart and can learn and change very quickly, bowlers like him are rare. The problem is mentorship,

Take Kohli e.g, that he has talent is undisputable but that talent would have been down the drain if he doesn't have ghambir, sachin, sehwag, dhoni, dravid to mentor and provide the needed protection for a young guy to develop and mature.
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