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Old 09-03-2012, 11:10 AM
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Time to let misbah go?

I've always supported misbah, but his captaincy record has been dismal lately.

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Old 09-03-2012, 11:21 AM
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iits not only his fault tbh, other players haven't done much either, especially afridi, looked terribly out of form
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As a captain Misbah is at a defenseless position. The defensive approach came back to haunt them once again. It's just so sad, that Pakistan just let it slip away just like that. Three youngsters have encouraging performances, apart from them and Ajmal there isn't much from Pakistan in the whole series. Misbah and Azhar were suppose to bat like Hussey and Maxwell, it wasn't a test match going on. Pakistan has to give captaincy to one of the young lads, and had to be proactive on the field. The passive, laid back, care free approach is so unprofessional. 280 was on cards and it came down to 244. Last game AUS was barely in 240 range and they made it to 248. It's just not working for Pakistan. Pakistan has to put emphasis back on fast bowling, back on all rounders. Keeping a one dimensional attack with 4 spinners made it easy for Australia to play them.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:36 AM
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we just didn't put enough runs on the board...especially after a start of 129 for the first wicket....in hindsight it was stupid to send afridi up, that has never worked well...fakmal...is well...fakmal....i dont get what his much talked about 'batting prowess' has done in this series? nada
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:39 AM
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changes needed definitely.

1) kamran akmal - can we just move on? are people retarded? "we need him for batting" achar lagao iski batting ka. 5 runs from the series. Congrats guys!

2) lower batting order - that's what won aus the series and lost pak the series. Same in sri lanka. we have a problem right at 7,8,9 position. it's not hard to diagnose, yet nothing happens.

3) afridi's batting - let's stop relying on him for batting ALL together. he should come in at 8.

4) Malik - why is such a talented batsmen on the bench? Misbah goes, malik returns. Make hafeez or azhar captain. It's time to move on.

5) Umar Akmal - one dimensional piece of shit player. Remember the decider in Sri Lanka. He has ONE big shot, the slog to mid wicket. That's it. He has no ability to think whatsoever.

6) Fast bowlers - where are they?
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:40 AM
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saab bakwaas ker rahay thay "kamii kamiii, kamii ki batting waah waah, sarfraz batting nahi ker saktha blah blah blah"

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Give youngsters a chance FFS. An EXTENDED chance. We need patience with youngsters. You can get angry at misbah, younis, gul... these guys have been playing for centuries, you CAN'T be impatient with new comers. Look at Warner - will he be dropped? NO. He's talented and Aussies are too smart to drop him.
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Old 09-03-2012, 11:42 AM
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We didn't put up enough runs because Misbah and co think 250 is enough.
Shit batting in the last few overs by Misbah and Azhar.
Stupid Captaincy to take off Ajmal when he was picking up wickets.

Afridi had a shit over all game.

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When misbah had a GOOD record, I would always point at it. Now it's time to be fair, he has a SHIT record. Time to let go of him. He's a brilliant test batsmen, has had a hell of a couple of years, but his od career should soon be over.
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wait a sec, so misbah promotes afridi, that fails.

he sends umar akmal before azhar ali to be more attacking, that fails.

he drops sohail tanvir who has been crap since birth and goes for more attacking options, that fails.

he brings kamran akmal back into the team because hes supposed an attacking batting talent, that fails.

so he makes tons of attacking strategic decisions, plus plays a matchwinning 35 not out last game, and now all of a sudden we are back to the mantra that he's a defensive captain? forgive me, but i'll let his decisions speak for themselves, and his decisions strong disagree with the assessment being presented here. 4 major attacking decisions failed today, can't blame the captain for that.
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wait a sec, so misbah promotes afridi, that fails.

he sends umar akmal before azhar ali to be more attacking, that fails.

he drops sohail tanvir who has been crap since birth and goes for more attacking options, that fails.

he brings kamran akmal back into the team because hes supposed an attacking batting talent, that fails.

so he makes tons of attacking strategic decisions, plus plays a matchwinning 35 not out last game, and now all of a sudden we are back to the mantra that he's a defensive captain? forgive me, but i'll let his decisions speak for themselves, and his decisions strong disagree with the assessment being presented here. 4 major attacking decisions failed today, can't blame the captain for that.

and Misbah fails
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wait a sec, so misbah promotes afridi, that fails.

he sends umar akmal before azhar ali to be more attacking, that fails.

he drops sohail tanvir who has been crap since birth and goes for more attacking options, that fails.

he brings kamran akmal back into the team because hes supposed an attacking batting talent, that fails.

so he makes tons of attacking strategic decisions, plus plays a matchwinning 35 not out last game, and now all of a sudden we are back to the mantra that he's a defensive captain? forgive me, but i'll let his decisions speak for themselves, and his decisions strong disagree with the assessment being presented here. 4 major attacking decisions failed today, can't blame the captain for that.
i am sorry adil but you are looking through misbah-tinted glasses here....i am not saying he should resign, but the criticism coming his way is merited. There was absolutely no reason to send afridi up there when the first wicket fell when misbah azhar and asad could have nurdled it around for another 12 to 15 and then let him loose...afridi's had not just a shit game, but a shit series, for the first time in his career i think his fitness is letting him down.

i still dont understand why he 'brought' fakmal back...if he actually did (i think it was more of a selectorial choice than misbah necessarily), sarfraz's batting in the asia cup final was quite mature and has been improving and he has a stellar fc record...

lastly, somebody mentioned something about the quicks, we have em, we have talha, who someone must really really hate to not give him an opportunity. we have wahab riaz who has the tools to cause trouble but for some reason selectors + misbah favoured a four prong spin attack...i get that we needed to be spin heavy but anwar ali is a good option as a lower order allrounder and a very decent quick.....and he didnt get an opportunity that was unfortunate
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and the best part is that if ONE of the attacking ploys misbah had employed paid off, like if afridi had scored a century after being promoted, everyone would be hailing afridi for being a hero, a legend, match winner, blah blah blah but nobody would say anything about misbah's decision to promote him. this is a thread about misbah's captaincy, then let's assess it for what its worth. misbah can lead a horse to the water, but he can't make it drink. he made attacking moves today, but the players failed. afridi is supposed to strike fear into bowlers world wide. umar akmal is supposed to be the next kohli. afridi is supposed to be the most attacking spinner in limited overs cricket. i mean he can make the greatest plan in the world but at the end of the day it requires execution, and you can't fault a captain/coach if a player does not execute a given plan.
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It's not just about attacking strategies. Needs to lead from the front as a Captain. As far as Umar Akmal goes he is only 21 or 22. He is an attacking player and will get out at times playing stupid shots. But what about the other batsman?
The big players who can't even score a single let alone hit a boundary when needed.
It's the stupid defensive mind-set.
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the only mistake Misbah I think made was taking ajmal off when he was on top of aussies batsman but other then that I don't think he did much wrong
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the only mistake Misbah I think made was taking ajmal off when he was on top of aussies batsman but other then that I don't think he did much wrong
Except for batting so poorly in the closing over.
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