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What a Performance by Hammad Azam

Hammad Azam's 63 of 54 balls, with five 4s and two 6s coasted Pakistan 'A' to a 3 wicket tense win against SL 'A'. Hammad came on to bat when Pakistan 'A' was struggling at 133-4, and then led the chase when Pakistan 'A' fall bit further at 166-7.
Hammad also had bowled decently, finishing 1-26 from 8 overs and also was credited for a run out.
Hammad also did decent in last game against South Africa 'A' as well, with 24 runs of 28 balls and 1-29 from his bowling in losing effort.

Another snub, another reaction performance after Asad Shafiq proved against South Africa 'A'......Mohsin Khan is again proven the dumber, working for the dumbest (Buffoon).
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let him play A games and domestic games and then bring him in international level

we have seen what happened with umar amin a great player in A team and domestic but not ready for international

get alot of A tour and domestic game experience and then InshAllah in no time he will be ready for international cricket
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Another snub, another reaction performance after Asad Shafiq proved against South Africa 'A'......Mohsin Khan is again proven the dumber, working for the dumbest (Buffoon).
dude make up your friggin mind, couple weeks ago you were complaining that there are too many young players in the squad, and now you want even more young players brought in. there needs to be balance, and this squad as we have it right now is balanced. let this man keep playing and keep impressing, and when something opens up then he can get a go. right now there is no room for any more young players in the pakistan team. this is the right composition of the team, we should give credit where it's due.
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let him play A games and domestic games and then bring him in international level

we have seen what happened with umar amin a great player in A team and domestic but not ready for international

get alot of A tour and domestic game experience and then InshAllah in no time he will be ready for international cricket
I am supporting him from day 1. He should be ready by the time World Cup comes next year.

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dude make up your friggin mind, couple weeks ago you were complaining that there are too many young players in the squad, and now you want even more young players brought in. there needs to be balance, and this squad as we have it right now is balanced. let this man keep playing and keep impressing, and when something opens up then he can get a go. right now there is no room for any more young players in the pakistan team. this is the right composition of the team, we should give credit where it's due.
That was for test matches adil...did nobody tell you that? You alwayyyyys need experience in test matches.
This is ODIs and T20, you need "jack of all trade" players like Hammad Azam and Fawwad Alam. Big plus is that they are good fielders as well and showing that they can handle pressure.
Credit is only due if there's a need for it, this selection was a no-brainer after the immense protest & criticism Mohsin Khan & Buffon faced on test team selection. Yet they still pull out "Hafeez Selection controversy"
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That was for test matches adil...did nobody tell you that? You alwayyyyys need experience in test matches.
This is ODIs and T20, you need "jack of all trade" players like Hammad Azam and Fawwad Alam. Big plus is that they are good fielders as well and showing that they can handle pressure.
Credit is only due if there's a need for it, this selection was a no-brainer after the immense protest & criticism Mohsin Khan & Buffon faced on test team selection. Yet they still pull out "Hafeez Selection controversy"
the odi and t20 teams are good for once. why can't you ever be happy? great there is one useless player in hafeez, but normally there are 4-5 "wtf are they doing here" type players so this is quite an improvement to have only one. and again, for these youngsters it's better for them to keep getting exposed to new conditions around the world than to be sitting on the bench with the senior side and carrying drinks. no doubt azam is a good player, just like a lot of our youth team, but there's no space in the team right now for any more young players. the odi/t20 team looks perfectly balanced for once, so credit to afridi/selectors for seemingly getting the selection right for once.
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the odi and t20 teams are good for once. why can't you ever be happy? great there is one useless player in hafeez, but normally there are 4-5 "wtf are they doing here" type players so this is quite an improvement to have only one . and again, for these youngsters it's better for them to keep getting exposed to new conditions around the world than to be sitting on the bench with the senior side and carrying drinks. no doubt azam is a good player, just like a lot of our youth team, but there's no space in the team right now for any more young players. the odi/t20 team looks perfectly balanced for once, so credit to afridi/selectors for seemingly getting the selection right for once.
hahaha....well,
Okay adil, that's one way of looking at it. Hopefully he gets ready by World Cup next year.
You've been quite impulsive lately, I won't comment further on it.
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impulsive? do you know the meaning of the word impulsive? i'm just responding to your comments, it just so happens that recently i have disagreed with 90% of what you've said. i agreed with you about the yousuf stuff a few weeks ago, but on the current issues, i don't. that has nothing to do with being impulsive.
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It had be ridiculous, nonsense, utter-foolishness to draft Hammad Azam into International side. The guy needs to be groomed. You can't draft players to international cricket directly from under 19. Let him play at least two-three seasons and 4-5 A tours.. then see.. We can't keep throwing youngsters just cuz they are talented!

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impulsive? do you know the meaning of the word impulsive? i'm just responding to your comments, it just so happens that recently i have disagreed with 90% of what you've said. i agreed with you about the yousuf stuff a few weeks ago, but on the current issues, i don't. that has nothing to do with being impulsive.
I believe I know the word better than most, certainly can't speak on behalf of you. Its not the opinion I have problem with, everyone is entitled to have opinion. Its all other rest BS which accompanies with it. I'll PM you in detail so you can understand it better, won't be good to explain it here.
On Hammad Azam's case, I respect your take and everyone else's take. But that's it, nothing more. I would prefer rather not to go out and force my take on others.
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the guy is spontaneous, kind of like a young afridi. he averages less than 20 in firstclass and that to me is just not good enough as of yet...
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what happend when umar akmal has directly brought into team after some crushing performances he was barely 20 ......the answer is that hammad should be in team squad atleast ...in pakistan no player can be groomed outside of squad ...we have a bunch of garbade administrator and thier friends...y not see hammad azam instead of fukn malik hafeez farhat etc????
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what happend when umar akmal has directly brought into team after some crushing performances he was barely 20 ......the answer is that hammad should be in team squad atleast ...in pakistan no player can be groomed outside of squad ...we have a bunch of garbade administrator and thier friends...y not see hammad azam instead of fukn malik hafeez farhat etc????
Yaar aapko pata hai Pakistan's current best fast bowler Mohammed Aamer should have debut at the age of 36....that would've justify using his proper talent at ideal time
This is a flawed logic. I don't believe in it.
People just have limited vision regarding assessment of talent in Pakistan, and they play favoritism to justify giving chances to youngsters. If youngsters were selected on merit for ENG tests tour, Umer AMin debacle wouldn't have happened. Umer Amin's issue was totally different and cannot be compared to Umer Akmal, Aamer or Hammad Azam. Umer Amin wasn't ready but Aamer was, Umer Akmal was and I believe Hammad Azam is ready as well. May be more tuning but he should be ready by World Cup or NZ tour later this year. Problem is Razzaq is standing in his way, and I will prefer Razzaq over him ATM. But like Azhar Ali needs guidance from Yousuf, Hammad also need supervision of experienced lower order batsmen like Razzaq and Kamran Akmal to prosper. So I don't think 'A' team tour will nurture him further from where he is right now, but definitely they will give him experience and more consistency.
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what happend when umar akmal has directly brought into team after some crushing performances he was barely 20 ......the answer is that hammad should be in team squad atleast ...in pakistan no player can be groomed outside of squad ...we have a bunch of garbade administrator and thier friends...y not see hammad azam instead of fukn malik hafeez farhat etc????
Umar Akmal played 2 first class seasons. Did very well in Australia A tour..
Why are we in such a hurry here?
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Umar Akmal played 2 first class seasons. Did very well in Australia A tour..
Why are we in such a hurry here?
Exactly Umar Akmal wasnt brought in right away. What is the point of having Hammad in the team? He definitely isnt part of our 2011 World Cup plans.
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the guy is spontaneous, kind of like a young afridi. he averages less than 20 in firstclass and that to me is just not good enough as of yet...
Hes only played 6 first class games, and what does first class average have to do with ODIS? His List A, batting average of 27 is pretty good, considering hes an all rounder, bowling average in list A is 37, but I'm sure when he gets more games, it'll improve.

He needs a bit more time yup.
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