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ICC World Twenty20: Pakistan vs India at Colombo l S8 G2 - Sep 30th 2012 [Discussion Thread]




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20th Match, Super Eights, Group 2
PAKISTAN v INDIA





India look for inspiration, Pakistan progress


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There was a time when all an out-of-form Pakistan cricketer needed to do was turn up against India, and he would magically regain his touch. How India will be hoping they can do some of that when they play Pakistan in their middle Super Eight match on Sunday.
Confused, low on confidence, playing as if with the weight of the world on their shoulders, India find themselves in a tight corner. Their trusted players are not performing, and some of the reserves provided by the selectors are not good enough. And for the first time there are questions around the captain's place in the side: he strikes at 110 runs per 100 balls, has never scored a T20I fifty, and twice in India's three last defeats he has hurt the side's momentum, failing to score a run a ball in the latter half of the innings. One more defeat, and India won't even have a backdoor entry left after their massive negative run-rate.

India do seem to have turned the tables from the time Pakistan used to dominate this "rivalry". Since the start of 2006, India have won 15 and lost eight internationals against Pakistan, but still trail the head-to-head 58 to 81. Pakistan, though, will be feeling good about their game after having pulled off an improbable win over South Africa. And their bowlers might not have had the best of tournaments until Friday, but they do remain a threat. They will also know from first-hand experience during the warm-up game that Indian bowlers can be bossed when put under the slightest of pumps.

Pakistan have a statistic to set right, though: they have never beaten India in any 50-over or 20-over World Cup match.

Form guide (completed matches, most recent first)
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Nasir Jamshed scored a fine century the last time Pakistan played India, but was denied a win by a superlative 183 from Virat Kohli. The two are the most promising young batting talents from the respective countries, both have been batting at No. 3 so far, and hold the key to a solid innings for their side.

India's opening - whether with the bat or with the ball - is now a matter of major speculation after the Irfan Pathan experiment with the bat and the R Ashwin one with the ball. Surely Irfan has got to get the new ball if he is to be used as a bowler? And surely India must want their specialist batsmen to get most of the overs?

Umar Gul may have won the previous match with the bat, but where has Gul the yorker-bowler disappeared? In 10 T20 matches this year, Gul has conceded runs at 8.4 an over, as opposed to an impressive career economy-rate of 6.88.

Team news
After the England match, Dhoni said he had problems of plenty at his hand. Less than 35 overs of cricket later, he has plenty of problems. Does he stand by his decision of keeping Virender Sehwag out and playing five bowlers? Does he look at the place of Yuvraj Singh and Rohit Sharma in that middle order? Will Manoj Tiwary ever get to play a live game? What does he do with an under-performing Zaheer Khan? What does he do with his own form? Only one thing might be certain at this time: Piyush Chawla's yet other, inexplicable, comeback might have ended.
India (probable): 1 Virender Sehwag, 2 Gautam Gambhir, 3 Virat Kohli, 4 Yuvraj Singh, 5 Suresh Raina, 6 Rohit Sharma/Manoj Tiwary, 7 MS Dhoni (capt. & wk), 8 Irfan Pathan, 9 R Ashwin, 10 Harbhajan Singh, 11 Zaheer Khan

Pakistan will be questioning Shahid Afridi's utility as a bowler who bats at No. 7. He has done his bit with the ball so far. He is the only Pakistan bowler other than Saeed Ajmal to have bowled all his overs in every match so far, and has conceded runs at only 6.33 an over. That should be enough to keep his place in the XI, but his six-or-nothing batting at No. 7 will remain a cause for worry.

Pakistan (probable) 1 Mohammad Hafeez (capt.), 2 Imran Nazir, 3 Nasir Jamshed, 4 Kamran Akmal (wk), 5 Shoaib Malik, 6 Umar Akmal, 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Umar Gul, 9 Yasir Arafat, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Raza Hasan.

Pitch and conditions
Conditions at the R Premadasa Stadium now present an interesting dilemma. The curator has now begun to leave the pitch dry, which should make you want to bat first. However, with the ever-present threat of the rain you also want to exploit the Duckworth-Lewis anomaly and avoid the wet outfield.

Stats and trivia
Shoaib Malik loves playing India. His overall international average is 31.67 over 282 matches, but in 38 matches against India he has scored four of those nine centuries and has averaged 46.41. In an unrelated incident he has married an Indian, tennis player Sania Mirza.
Pakistan and India have never played each other in a T20 international outside the World Twenty20.

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"For me I think Virender Sehwag can be very dangerous. I hope he'll play the next two games. I think it won't be easy to play the next two games without him."
Suresh Raina to BBC


"When we play India there is lot of pressure because our people always want us to win. The same is the case in India, so there will be pressure on both teams."
Umar Gul hints at implications other than just progression in the tournament whenever Pakistan play India

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Virender Sehwag's selection will be key for India. Whether they select him or opt for extra bowler, the game can easily turn around on that factor. His record is impressive against Pakistan, particularly against Pakistani spin. Pakistan most likely will continue with same line up, though I have a feeling that Yasir Arafat besides his fielding edge will be completely ineffective. Pakistan should play Razzaq instead. Afridi's form is a big concern.
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Shwag avg vs pak in test is 91? WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

how many matches that were where asif wasnt playing
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razzaq should play for sure
i don't think yasir arafat has come good, and razzaq has the potential with the bat, if only he bowls the first two or three overs he can come good with the ball too
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If spin is our force, remember Indians play spin quite well and the pitch may also not suit our bowlers. So batting will be the key, if we are to win against the Indians.
This supports the inclusion of a batting all-rounder instead of Afridi (spin all-rounder).
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razzaq in for hasan this is the best possible change
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i'm so excited, i finally have a day off where i can watch a game!! looking forward to discussing it with you guys tomorrow!
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better bring good luck warna thread opening par mar pare gee LOL isliye mian open he nahi karta
waisay faisal made all threads all of which pak won... pakistan are off to a bad start already
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waisay faisal made all threads all of which pak won... pakistan are off to a bad start already
I know LOL tumharee shamat aaey gee champion will kill u LOL
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Inshalah Pakistan will win tomorrow...I am watching match at one of my indian dost along with pakistani and indian together..it will be first experience for me...match starts at 7am here in the morning...bohat hi subhua subha hia match yaar.

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