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Old 06-30-2010, 12:23 AM
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When did I ever claim its a crime to sleep in the same bed as a boy? I'm just skeptical of the blokes intentions. It sounds very very dodgy, would you let your kids go on and sleep with MJ? ...He was proven innocent? So was O.J Simpson! American justice system really is brilliant isn't it? Yep, apparently only I have a problem with who MJ slept with, thus it's such a huge and high profile case amongst the media and law practice and celebrity scandals..

How is it dodgy? The guy went as far as "marrying" a woman just so she can give him a child. Do you find that dodgy as well? You think he might have had bad intentions with his own kids as well then? Even though his kids have stated he was a great father. But you also probably think he asked that woman for a child because he had bad intentions.



Did I claim I am perfect? Did I claim MJ or Chris Brown need to be perfect cause they're celebs? I'm just pointing out a massive massive character flaw by someone who's idolized by millions..

And what am I saying? Everyone has flaws. If someone is looking up to a celebrity and thinking they are PERFECT then they are the actual idiot.


Go on then, instead of laughing it off, tell me what incentive his ex publicist would have to make claims against him?
What incentive his butler would have to make claims against him?
What incentive his sister would have to make claims against him?
His Maid? His Bodyguard?
LaToya Jackson, his own sister?!
or is that going to be responded with a "ROFL" too..go on, tell me what incentive each of those individuals had?

So because they say they saw him kiss a boy's hair or something he is now guilty?
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:31 AM
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This tribute is for Chris Brown to come back up again. No one cared about him anymore and he used Michael Jackson to back back to the spot light. Very smart.
Actually he has performed Michael Jackson songs on stage as a tribute to his idol even before he passed away or before Chris Brown's troubles:

Chris Brown Thriller Tribute to Michael Jackson - World Music Awards 2006


Chris Brown Michael Jackson Tribute in Sydney - November 2006


Haters can continue to hate and continue making up BS lol. End of the day he got more money than you and zain ali lol. He dont need more fame.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:36 AM
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Zain is dragging it unnecessarily. pindi is right this time. Zain please open a new thread and you can write your essays there. This is a different topic. So please stay on topic.
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Actually he has performed Michael Jackson songs on stage as a tribute to his idol even before he passed away or before Chris Brown's troubles:
You missed the point here, all I am saying is he Used MJ to try and bounce back, which is smart. As far as the money goes, even prostitutes make more than you do.
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You missed the point here, all I am saying is he Used MJ to try and bounce back, which is smart. As far as the money goes, even prostitutes make more than you do.
So you're saying he used MJ in the past too? This is not the first time he gave a tribute to MJ.

As for the bolded part...they do? They barely make enough to get by.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:19 AM
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So you're saying he used MJ in the past too? This is not the first time he gave a tribute to MJ.

As for the bolded part...they do? They barely make enough to get by.

Exactly past was for different reasons, now why would he need to do it again?
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You missed the point here, all I am saying is he Used MJ to try and bounce back, which is smart. As far as the money goes, even prostitutes make more than you do.
Really?

He doesnt need to pay a few minutes tribute to MJ to bounce back, lol.. he's talented enough on his own to do well again. Apart from that, how many performers are currently out there that could have done half of what Chris Brown did on-stage? Two or three?.. hardly nonetheless, and that should answer why Brown and not just anybody else. I thought that was the obvious though, guess not.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:31 AM
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Really?

He doesnt need to pay a few minutes tribute to MJ to bounce back, lol.. he's talented enough on his own to do well again. Apart from that, how many performers are currently out there that could have done half of what Chris Brown did on-stage? Two or three?.. hardly nonetheless, and that should answer why Brown and not just anybody else. I thought that was the obvious though, guess not.
No question he is talented, perhaps when he was crying on stage it might have been for Rehana for the mistakes he made.
After the Rehana incident not many people wanted to go and buy his album and or cared much as they did prior to that.
This is like a redemption for him.
This is my view you may or may not feel the same.
He sheds few tears and ur in aww
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:39 AM
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Exactly past was for different reasons, now why would he need to do it again?
Well what makes you assume that he came crying to BET to perform on the show?

In fact, last year's award show got criticism because the MJ tribute sucked after he just passed away. I even made a thread on it:

http://pakstop.com/pmforums/f79/bet-awards-wtf-96080/

So it's not out of the question that BET went up to Chris Brown and wanted him to perform the tribute.
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Old 06-30-2010, 03:44 AM
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No question he is talented, perhaps when he was crying on stage it might have been for Rehana for the mistakes he made.
After the Rehana incident not many people wanted to go and buy his album and or cared much as they did prior to that.
This is like a redemption for him.
This is my view you may or may not feel the same.
He sheds few tears and ur in aww

I don't care why he cried, but I highly doubt that a minute or two of crying will get him back the endorsements he lost, allow some of the radio stations to start playing his music again, have his music climb charts again, or have the whole world in awe.

If you think all of that ^ has happened or will happen due to Brown shedding tears in a stage performance, then that's amusing. This goes back to what I initially said, he paid a tribute because he's talented enough to do so.
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I don't care why he cried, but I highly doubt that a minute or two of crying will get him back the endorsements he lost, allow some of the radio stations to start playing his music again, have his music climb charts again, or have the whole world in awe.

If you think all of that ^ has happened or will happen due to Brown shedding tears in a stage performance, then that's amusing. This goes back to what I initially said, he paid a tribute because he's talented enough to do so.
No one here is questioning his talent, hell I listen to his music. I am not saying he sucks, so I don't know why you guys keep talking about how great he is. I am simply saying this was a good Idea to bounce back.

Once again " Well done Chris Brown" that was very smart
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No one here is questioning his talent, hell I listen to his music. I am not saying he sucks, so I don't know why you guys keep talking about how great he is. I am simply saying this was a good Idea to bounce back.

Once again " Well done Chris Brown" that was very smart

I already mentioned how it's going to help him "bounce back." So, I guess we'd just have to agree to disagree then.
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No question he is talented, perhaps when he was crying on stage it might have been for Rehana for the mistakes he made.
After the Rehana incident not many people wanted to go and buy his album and or cared much as they did prior to that.
This is like a redemption for him.
This is my view you may or may not feel the same.
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I don't think he got affected by the Rihanna incident. Rihanna didn't take much action against him so I doubt it was entirely his fault. It might be but who knows. People are still listening to him and have lost interest in Rihanna and her songs.

At least thats the case for me. Just commenting..
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i genuinely don't care what the people did it for or not...

my point is that he even his ex staff and publicists have come out sand made claims, when they had no financial incentive or motive to do so..
and let's completely ignore how he had love only for MALE children, and the fact that one of the kids apparently described Michael's genitalia to the cops with extreme and unusual detail, and which the cops themselves said was very very unusually similar to the details described...
From his own staff, his own sister, it has been said he did strange things like lick the hair of the kids, only for his sister to take those words back strangely enough?
There's way way too much 'circumstantial' evidence for it ALL to be a coincidence, particularly from people who have absolutely zero interest or incentive, financial or otherwise, in framing MJ.
Write MJ's alternate biography dude. Seriously don't bore us with this crap, we've heard it all really...nothing can change the fact that he was the ultimate King of Pop and deserves as many tributes as people would pay him.

Even if he was a pedophile, he's given the music world what not many have. More than half of the current generation of artists are because they were inspired by his music. No one...and I mean NO ONE 'boos' when he's mentioned on ANY stage (even at E3, if you watched it). There is a reason to that, the music world and the entertainment world is indebted to him, you cannot deny this.

End of discussion.


Whether he was a pedophile or not is another matter altogether.

Anyway: Hide the faults of others and Allah will hide yours. baat hi khatam, doosrey ko bura bananey se kuch nahi mileyga, wo banda toh chala gya bhai apni socho
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I don't think he got affected by the Rihanna incident. Rihanna didn't take much action against him so I doubt it was entirely his fault. It might be but who knows. People are still listening to him and have lost interest in Rihanna and her songs.

At least thats the case for me. Just commenting..
I am not talking about fault, but it would still be painful to go through this with someone so close to you.
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