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cyborg909 · #1 (**permalink**) 07-10-2012, 10:32 PM

82% Pakistanis feel laws should follow Holy Quran teachings, says survey – The Express Tribune

WASHINGTION: Democracy is still popular in six Muslim-majority countries, over a year after the Arab Spring, and the majority in some countries favors laws based on the Holy Quran, according to a poll published Tuesday.

In Pakistan, 82% of participants feel “laws should strictly follow the teachings of the Holy Quran.” In the rest of the Muslim world, only 72% of Jordanians, 60% of Egyptians, 23% of Tunisians and 17% of Turks and Lebanese agreed.

The first two Muslim-majority nations to overthrow a dictator still “desire” democracy, with some 67% of Egyptians and 63% of Tunisians saying “democracy is preferable,” according to the survey conducted by the Pew Research Center in recent months.

In the rest of the region, 84% of Lebanese and 71% of Turks say “democracy is preferable,” but Jordanians and Pakistanis are less enthusiastic, at 61% and 42% respectively.

Forty-five percent of Tunisians say the country has improved without ousted 23-year president Zine el Abidine Ben Ali, and 42% disagree. Tunisians are still optimistic about the future of their country, with 75% saying the nation’s flailing economy will improve.

Aside from Lebanon, which boasts a large Christian minority, a majority of poll participants across the surveyed Muslim nations feel Islam does and should play a central role in government. Points of view differ across the countries regarding the degree to which Islam should affect policy.

A majority of poll participants believe women should have the same rights as men. Lebanese led the pack with 93% believing in gender equality. Only 74% of Tunisians and 58% of Egyptians support equal rights for women. Some 67% of Tunisian women say that equal gender rights are very important, whereas only 50% of men agree.

The overwhelming majority of most poll participants opposed extremists, even if al Qaeda is seen as favorable by 19% of Egyptians, 16% of Tunisians and 13% of Pakistanis.

The polls were conducted in March and April, with a sample of 1,000 participants per country and a margin of error ranging from more or less than 3.9 to 5.2 points across the different countries.

cyborg909 · #2 (**permalink**) 07-10-2012, 10:33 PM

In 1946, Quaid-e-Azam declared
‘We do not demand Pakistan simply to have a piece of land but we want a laboratory where we could experiment on Islamic principles.
In his message to the frontier Muslim Students Federation, he said:
Pakistan only means freedom and independence but Muslims ideology which has to be preserved which has come to us a precious gift and treasure and which we hope, others will share with us. (Address on 18th June 1945)

arabiannight975 · #3 (**permalink**) 07-10-2012, 11:31 PM

Haha looking at todays thinking of a common Paksitani we can sum this up this way too!

82% of the Paksitani of this survey believe the other 18% should be shot dead for not agreeing to it.

Jinx Jack · #4 (**permalink**) 07-10-2012, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by arabiannight975

Haha looking at todays thinking of a common Paksitani we can sum this up this way too!

82% of the Paksitani of this survey believe the other 18% should be shot dead for not agreeing to it.

:facepalm:

Jinx Jack · #5 (**permalink**) 07-10-2012, 11:52 PM

A recent poll of six Muslim countries revealed that Pakistanis by far were the least likely to favour democracy. Compared with Turkey, where 71 per cent of the respondents favoured democracy, only 42 per cent of Pakistanis held the same view.

A recently released report by the Pew Research Centre showed that unlike Pakistan, the overwhelming majority of respondents in the other five Muslim majority countries preferred democracy. And while Pakistanis demonstrated a half-hearted appreciation for democratic principles, an overwhelming majority (82 per cent) expressed preference for the laws to follow the Quranic injunctions. In comparison, only 60 per cent of Egyptians wanted their laws to follow Quran.

These statistics may lead some to believe that Pakistanis may be following the fundamentalist Taliban or al Qaeda. This, I would argue, will be an erroneous conclusion, which ignores the complex socio-economic realities of Pakistan.

Given that the democratic rule and institutions have been in place in Pakistan since 2008 and that the democratic forces have, more than once, prevailed over military dictatorship in Pakistan, the lack of enthusiasm from democracy amongst Pakistanis should be a concern for all. At the same time one wonders why the remaining 58 per cent Pakistanis no longer see democracy as the preferred system of governance.

‘It’s the economy, stupid’

A careful review of the Pew survey offers hints of why democracy is no longer favoured by most Pakistanis. It appears that James Carville’s adage “It’s the economy, stupid” also holds true for Pakistan where 58 per cent of Pakistanis preferred strong economy over a good democracy (34 per cent). While I see the two as not mutually exclusive, still Pakistanis appear more prudent to prefer bread, clothing, and shelter over empty promises of the same from the beneficiaries of the electoral processes.

The Zardari government, which came to power in 2008, is partially responsible for people losing faith in democracy in Pakistan. Their mismanagement and poor governance has made the lives of ordinary Pakistanis difficult who now live in a country where water and power supplies are intermittent at best, law and order do not exist, and unemployment amongst the youth has reached unprecedented highs.

In 2007, when Pakistan was ruled by a military dictator, 59 per cent of Pakistanis expressed faith in the nation’s economy. A mere 9 per cent of Pakistanis today are optimistic about their economic outlook. Pakistan’s civil bureaucracy and political leadership of all stripes must wonder why most Pakistanis were confident about the state of the nation’s economy under a military dictator and why more than 90 per cent of Pakistanis have no faith in the nation’s economy when the electoral democracy prevails in the country. In fact, 43 per cent Pakistanis today believe that the economic situation in the country will worsen over the next year; hardly a reason to celebrate democracy in Pakistan.

-Source: Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project.

Is the fundamentalist Islam the answer?

If democracy is not their preferred model of governance, do Pakistanis favour a Taliban style fundamentalist Islamic state? After all, 62 per cent of Pakistanis, up from 46 per cent in 2010, would like to see Islam play a major role in politics.

These numbers may give some comfort to the leaders of Pakistan Defence Council (PDC). However, their optimism in these numbers will be extremely misguided. An overwhelming majority of Pakistanis is distressed about the sorry state of economic affairs. Given that PDC has nothing more to its credit than holding rallies and marches, the electorate is unlikely to handover the government to clerics who have nothing to show for economic plans.

Pakistanis, unlike the respondents in other Muslim majority countries, deserve a lot of credit for not becoming entangled in the rhetoric of the fundamentalist groups. Note that only 13 per cent of Pakistanis holds a favourable view of al Qaeda and the Taliban. In comparison, one in five Egyptians holds a favourable view of al Qaeda and the Taliban. At the same time, 39 per cent of Egyptians and 44 per cent Jordanians hold a favourable view of Hamas and one in every two Tunisians also favours Hamas.

What then, explains the enigma that 82 per cent of Pakistanis want to have their laws adhere to the Quran, but only 13 per cent support the Taliban and others who champion similar causes. The answer to this question is rather complex. I am of the view that Pakistanis see Islam as a benevolent religion and by following its principles they believe they may be able to restore justice and prosperity in the country. This may be the reason that while being religious, still an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis do not conform to the orthodoxies portrayed as the religion by al Qaeda and the Taliban.

Do Pakistanis recognise democracy?

I wonder at times if Pakistanis understand what democracy truly entails. Is it merely the electoral outcomes that constitute democracy in their minds or is it the all-encompassing manifestation of respect, freedom, and equity that one would associate with the very idea of democracy. Pakistanis appear rather confused about even the electoral manifestation of democracy. Consider that in the Pew survey 52 per cent of Pakistanis believed that the Saudi Arabian government supported democracy in the Middle East. It is rather absurd to think that the Saudi government promotes democracy in the region while it shuns the same practice at home and even denies women the right to drive a car.

Consider also the fact that 63 per cent of Pakistanis believe holding free and fair elections to be very important, yet only 28 per cent of Pakistanis value free media. The rest would rather see print and electronic media censored. At the same time, only one in five Pakistanis supports unbridled access to the Internet. Democracy rests on having free and unbridled access to, and exchange of, ideas and information. If the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis would rather censor media and the Internet, and therefore prevent open debate, their desire to hold free elections may remain an unrealised dream.

Whereas Pakistanis continue to hold conflicting objectives for democracy they also suffer from the Messiah syndrome. Instead of striving to build democratic institutions, a large number of Pakistanis would prefer to wait for a strong leader who may one day turn their fortunes around. When asked to choose between a democratic government or a strong leader, 61 per cent of Pakistanis opted for a strong leader over democracy. This is hardly productive. No one man can fix the nation, especially when democratic principles are not embedded in the social fabric.

Democracy will prevail in Pakistan if and when the democratic and human rights of women and other disenfranchised groups are recognised and protected. This, however, is not the case today. Consider the fundamental human right of women to choose their own spouse, which (according to the Pew survey) is supported by a mere 11 per cent of Pakistanis. The remaining 89 per cent believe that the family should choose the spouse for the woman. This is dictatorial to say the least, resulting in a direct conflict between what is desired at the household level and what is preferred for the nation.

As long as Pakistanis (mostly male) continue to dictate choices for their daughters, sisters, and other women in the family or in the neighbourhood, they continue to be part of the microcosm of dictatorship, which when aggregated to the national level will never transform into true democracy.

The challenge therefore is to embrace democracy in all its manifestations rather than cherry-picking the democratic norms that conform to the tribal practices. - DAWN

cyborg909 · #6 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinx Jack

A recent poll of six Muslim countries revealed that Pakistanis by far were the least likely to favour democracy. Compared with Turkey, where 71 per cent of the respondents favoured democracy, only 42 per cent of Pakistanis held the same view.

A recently released report by the Pew Research Centre showed that unlike Pakistan, the overwhelming majority of respondents in the other five Muslim majority countries preferred democracy. And while Pakistanis demonstrated a half-hearted appreciation for democratic principles, an overwhelming majority (82 per cent) expressed preference for the laws to follow the Quranic injunctions. In comparison, only 60 per cent of Egyptians wanted their laws to follow Quran.

These statistics may lead some to believe that Pakistanis may be following the fundamentalist Taliban or al Qaeda. This, I would argue, will be an erroneous conclusion, which ignores the complex socio-economic realities of Pakistan.

Given that the democratic rule and institutions have been in place in Pakistan since 2008 and that the democratic forces have, more than once, prevailed over military dictatorship in Pakistan, the lack of enthusiasm from democracy amongst Pakistanis should be a concern for all. At the same time one wonders why the remaining 58 per cent Pakistanis no longer see democracy as the preferred system of governance.

‘It’s the economy, stupid’

A careful review of the Pew survey offers hints of why democracy is no longer favoured by most Pakistanis. It appears that James Carville’s adage “It’s the economy, stupid” also holds true for Pakistan where 58 per cent of Pakistanis preferred strong economy over a good democracy (34 per cent). While I see the two as not mutually exclusive, still Pakistanis appear more prudent to prefer bread, clothing, and shelter over empty promises of the same from the beneficiaries of the electoral processes.

The Zardari government, which came to power in 2008, is partially responsible for people losing faith in democracy in Pakistan. Their mismanagement and poor governance has made the lives of ordinary Pakistanis difficult who now live in a country where water and power supplies are intermittent at best, law and order do not exist, and unemployment amongst the youth has reached unprecedented highs.

In 2007, when Pakistan was ruled by a military dictator, 59 per cent of Pakistanis expressed faith in the nation’s economy. A mere 9 per cent of Pakistanis today are optimistic about their economic outlook. Pakistan’s civil bureaucracy and political leadership of all stripes must wonder why most Pakistanis were confident about the state of the nation’s economy under a military dictator and why more than 90 per cent of Pakistanis have no faith in the nation’s economy when the electoral democracy prevails in the country. In fact, 43 per cent Pakistanis today believe that the economic situation in the country will worsen over the next year; hardly a reason to celebrate democracy in Pakistan.

-Source: Pew Research Center’s Global Attitudes Project.

Is the fundamentalist Islam the answer?

If democracy is not their preferred model of governance, do Pakistanis favour a Taliban style fundamentalist Islamic state? After all, 62 per cent of Pakistanis, up from 46 per cent in 2010, would like to see Islam play a major role in politics.

These numbers may give some comfort to the leaders of Pakistan Defence Council (PDC). However, their optimism in these numbers will be extremely misguided. An overwhelming majority of Pakistanis is distressed about the sorry state of economic affairs. Given that PDC has nothing more to its credit than holding rallies and marches, the electorate is unlikely to handover the government to clerics who have nothing to show for economic plans.

Pakistanis, unlike the respondents in other Muslim majority countries, deserve a lot of credit for not becoming entangled in the rhetoric of the fundamentalist groups. Note that only 13 per cent of Pakistanis holds a favourable view of al Qaeda and the Taliban. In comparison, one in five Egyptians holds a favourable view of al Qaeda and the Taliban. At the same time, 39 per cent of Egyptians and 44 per cent Jordanians hold a favourable view of Hamas and one in every two Tunisians also favours Hamas.

What then, explains the enigma that 82 per cent of Pakistanis want to have their laws adhere to the Quran, but only 13 per cent support the Taliban and others who champion similar causes. The answer to this question is rather complex. I am of the view that Pakistanis see Islam as a benevolent religion and by following its principles they believe they may be able to restore justice and prosperity in the country. This may be the reason that while being religious, still an overwhelming majority of Pakistanis do not conform to the orthodoxies portrayed as the religion by al Qaeda and the Taliban.

Do Pakistanis recognise democracy?

I wonder at times if Pakistanis understand what democracy truly entails. Is it merely the electoral outcomes that constitute democracy in their minds or is it the all-encompassing manifestation of respect, freedom, and equity that one would associate with the very idea of democracy. Pakistanis appear rather confused about even the electoral manifestation of democracy. Consider that in the Pew survey 52 per cent of Pakistanis believed that the Saudi Arabian government supported democracy in the Middle East. It is rather absurd to think that the Saudi government promotes democracy in the region while it shuns the same practice at home and even denies women the right to drive a car.

Consider also the fact that 63 per cent of Pakistanis believe holding free and fair elections to be very important, yet only 28 per cent of Pakistanis value free media. The rest would rather see print and electronic media censored. At the same time, only one in five Pakistanis supports unbridled access to the Internet. Democracy rests on having free and unbridled access to, and exchange of, ideas and information. If the overwhelming majority of Pakistanis would rather censor media and the Internet, and therefore prevent open debate, their desire to hold free elections may remain an unrealised dream.

Whereas Pakistanis continue to hold conflicting objectives for democracy they also suffer from the Messiah syndrome. Instead of striving to build democratic institutions, a large number of Pakistanis would prefer to wait for a strong leader who may one day turn their fortunes around. When asked to choose between a democratic government or a strong leader, 61 per cent of Pakistanis opted for a strong leader over democracy. This is hardly productive. No one man can fix the nation, especially when democratic principles are not embedded in the social fabric.

Democracy will prevail in Pakistan if and when the democratic and human rights of women and other disenfranchised groups are recognised and protected. This, however, is not the case today. Consider the fundamental human right of women to choose their own spouse, which (according to the Pew survey) is supported by a mere 11 per cent of Pakistanis. The remaining 89 per cent believe that the family should choose the spouse for the woman. This is dictatorial to say the least, resulting in a direct conflict between what is desired at the household level and what is preferred for the nation.

As long as Pakistanis (mostly male) continue to dictate choices for their daughters, sisters, and other women in the family or in the neighbourhood, they continue to be part of the microcosm of dictatorship, which when aggregated to the national level will never transform into true democracy.

The challenge therefore is to embrace democracy in all its manifestations rather than cherry-picking the democratic norms that conform to the tribal practices. - DAWN

The analysis is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start, breifly will point out to one point mentioned i.e media,

Pakistani sees media as whole news and entertainment, for argument sake say that the responded understood media means only news, it wont be surprising that majority wants to some censorship, note that whenever some govt wants to muzzle the media large population come out in favor of media, so its not news or opinion that pakistani wants to censor is the so called pushing of agenda that they want to censor, when they suspect and later see behind the scene of mehar and luqman, when they know abt lifafa journalism they know whom to believe and whom not to they want to censor and control that part simply put they want news without spin. A compaign by news media group "aman ki asha" is another example, or giving time to ppl who openly bash pakisatn on pakistani media or favor a lifestyle which is not acceptable to most pakistanis.
while 83% wants islamic based law they never vote religious parties in because they dun want talibinization yet they dun want laws that allow interest, make alochol legal or gay rights etc etc

arabiannight975 · #7 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jinx Jack

:facepalm:

Exactly, but its the reality! This is the way our awam thinks now!

User Name · #8 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 04:36 AM

Sad

Bakumdarum · #9 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 04:38 AM

Implementing Islamic sharia is the way to go no doubt. But before that we have to understand Islam. Prophet(PBUH) and Islamic teachings put great emphasis on protecting the rights of minorities. During the Prophet(PBUH) time not even a single non muslim was prosecuted or killed because he didn't agree with the majority's religious point of view.

Islam only permits killing those who are "Mufsideen fil arz"(those who create unrest in the land). Currently the unrest creators are the owners of religious doctrine in pakistan. Untill and unless pakistanis try to understand the religion from a logical point of view and understand that its a code of life and other people could choose a different code of life and its normal.

Religion is a tool to facilitate our communication with other people and with God. I could believe in 1 God and someone else can believe in 7 Gods. As long we dont harm other people and let them believe what they want to believe, our society will be a peaceful society. Quaid was a liberal and he wanted an islamic pakistan where people accept religion by choice and not by force and that exactly was the motto of prophet(PBUH) and followers like Muhammed Bin Qasim, Tariq Bin ziad, salahuddin ayubi.

Lahoriii · #10 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cyborg909

The analysis is wrong on so many levels I don't even know where to start, breifly will point out to one point mentioned i.e media,

Pakistani sees media as whole news and entertainment, for argument sake say that the responded understood media means only news, it wont be surprising that majority wants to some censorship, note that whenever some govt wants to muzzle the media large population come out in favor of media, so its not news or opinion that pakistani wants to censor is the so called pushing of agenda that they want to censor, when they suspect and later see behind the scene of mehar and luqman, when they know abt lifafa journalism they know whom to believe and whom not to they want to censor and control that part simply put they want news without spin. A compaign by news media group "aman ki asha" is another example, or giving time to ppl who openly bash pakisatn on pakistani media or favor a lifestyle which is not acceptable to most pakistanis.
while 83% wants islamic based law they never vote religious parties in because they dun want talibinization yet they dun want laws that allow interest, make alochol legal or gay rights etc etc

you say you are a centrist. but this really shows you are a little off to the right... of jalaludin haqqani...

that whole paragraph is an assumption, regardless. You can't say something is wrong then give an analysis solely based on assumptions and your own philosophy...

and what exactly is wrong with aman ki asha? what proof is there that pakistanis other than YOU want it censored? wtf?

adil_909 · #11 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 05:08 AM

aman ki asha lights a fire beneath the rectums of closet right wing fanatics in pakistan who delude themselves to thinking they are somehow centrist. actually, centrist pakistanis don't really exist anymore. that is because in order to be a centrist, you have to have the intellectual capacity to understand issues that go beyond your own comfort zone and preconceived notions of what life should be like. centrists do not blindly follow parties or ideologies, they think for themselves and come up with solutions. this is increasingly rare in pakistan. whether we are blindly following what moulvis are teaching us, or we are blindly following our political parties, we have lost the ability to think critically and solve problems. in essence, we are a herd of sheep waiting to be led in this direction or that by whatever eloquent and charismatic force is holding the reigns. in this circumstance, democracy is a profoundly futile exercise. on one hand, people think the economy was better under musharraf, on another hand people think that they care about the economy more than democracy, and then on the final hand they will still go and vote for the same a$$holes that have dragged the economy to the ground just because that's what they've been told to do. herd of sheep mentality is not congruous with EFFECTIVE and SUCCESSFUL democracy because all indicators of success go to the ground. it's a case of blind leading the blind, and that sums up pakistan perfectly in 4 words.

User Name · #12 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 05:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bakumdarum

Implementing Islamic sharia is the way to go no doubt. But before that we have to understand Islam. Prophet(PBUH) and Islamic teachings put great emphasis on protecting the rights of minorities. During the Prophet(PBUH) time not even a single non muslim was prosecuted or killed because he didn't agree with the majority's religious point of view.

Islam only permits killing those who are "Mufsideen fil arz"(those who create unrest in the land). Currently the unrest creators are the owners of religious doctrine in pakistan. Untill and unless pakistanis try to understand the religion from a logical point of view and understand that its a code of life and other people could choose a different code of life and its normal.

Religion is a tool to facilitate our communication with other people and with God. I could believe in 1 God and someone else can believe in 7 Gods. As long we dont harm other people and let them believe what they want to believe, our society will be a peaceful society. Quaid was a liberal and he wanted an islamic pakistan where people accept religion by choice and not by force and that exactly was the motto of prophet(PBUH) and followers like Muhammed Bin Qasim, Tariq Bin ziad, salahuddin ayubi.

Please tell me what the Hadith (Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari) have to say when it comes to apostasy in Islam?
Are any of these being tolerant of those who choose not to believe anymore?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:

Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

AND..

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17

AND...

Narrated Abu Burda:Abu Musa said, "I came to the Prophet along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash'ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah's Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, 'O Abu Musa (O 'Abdullah bin Qais!).' I said, 'By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.' As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, 'We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or 'Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.'" The Prophet then sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu'adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, 'I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.'"

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:

AND..

Narrated Abu Musa:
A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle."

Volume 9, Book 89, Number 271:

Let me guess..
they're all unverified, unauthenticated, and not true Hadith?

sallu · #13 (**permalink**) 07-11-2012, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by User Name

Please tell me what the Hadith (Sahih Muslim and Sahih Bukhari) have to say when it comes to apostasy in Islam?
Are any of these being tolerant of those who choose not to believe anymore?

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 52, Number 260:

Narrated Ikrima:
Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

AND..

Narrated 'Abdullah: Allah's Apostle said, "The blood of a Muslim who confesses that none has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle, cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims."

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 83, Number 17

AND...

Narrated Abu Burda:Abu Musa said, "I came to the Prophet along with two men (from the tribe) of Ash'ariyin, one on my right and the other on my left, while Allah's Apostle was brushing his teeth (with a Siwak), and both men asked him for some employment. The Prophet said, 'O Abu Musa (O 'Abdullah bin Qais!).' I said, 'By Him Who sent you with the Truth, these two men did not tell me what was in their hearts and I did not feel (realize) that they were seeking employment.' As if I were looking now at his Siwak being drawn to a corner under his lips, and he said, 'We never (or, we do not) appoint for our affairs anyone who seeks to be employed. But O Abu Musa! (or 'Abdullah bin Qais!) Go to Yemen.'" The Prophet then sent Mu'adh bin Jabal after him and when Mu'adh reached him, he spread out a cushion for him and requested him to get down (and sit on the cushion). Behold: There was a fettered man beside Abu Muisa. Mu'adh asked, "Who is this (man)?" Abu Muisa said, "He was a Jew and became a Muslim and then reverted back to Judaism." Then Abu Muisa requested Mu'adh to sit down but Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down till he has been killed. This is the judgment of Allah and His Apostle (for such cases) and repeated it thrice. Then Abu Musa ordered that the man be killed, and he was killed. Abu Musa added, "Then we discussed the night prayers and one of us said, 'I pray and sleep, and I hope that Allah will reward me for my sleep as well as for my prayers.'"

Sahih Bukhari, Volume 9, Book 84, Number 58:

AND..

Narrated Abu Musa:
A man embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His Apostle."

Volume 9, Book 89, Number 271:

Let me guess..
they're all unverified, unauthenticated, and not true Hadith?

they are all unverified, unauthenticated and not true aHadith!