IT WASN'T MUSLIMS

With a peer-reviewed scientific journal having published "loaded gun" (i.e. unreacted nano-thermite) evidence finally proving beyond doubt that World Trade Center Buildings 1, 2 and 7 were brought down in a series of controlled demolitions, here are a few more facts to consider.

It wasn't Muslims in an Afghan cave who had access to highly energetic nano-thermites; it was the US military and government scientists such as those connected with NIST.

It wasn't Muslims who trained their cameras on the World Trade Center Towers prior to the first aircraft impact, who danced and celebrated with high fives prior to the second impact as most onlookers still believed it had been a terrible accident rather than terrorism, and who were caught with foreign passports, $4,700 in cash hidden in a sock, maps highlighting certain places in the city, and a van that tested positive for traces of explosives; it was Israelis Sivan Kurzberg, Paul Kurzberg, Yaron Shmuel, Oded Ellner, and Omer Marmari, several of whom have been confirmed as Mossad agents, as part of their job in "documenting the event".

It wasn't Muslims who were in New York on 9/11 and in London on the morning of the 7/7 attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu and Rudy Giuliani.

It wasn't Muslims who received advance warning of the London 7/7 attacks; it was Benjamin Netanyahu and the Mossad.

It wasn't Muslims who provided two hours' advance warning of an attack on the World Trade Center via an instant messaging company based in Herzliya; it was Israelis.

It wasn't a Muslim who fled the US on September 14, 2001; it was Dominick Suter of "Urban Moving Systems" who fled to Israel.

It wasn't a Muslim who went on TV within hours of the attacks to tell everyone that "It... certainly has the fingerprints of somebody like bin Laden" and the World Trade Center had collapsed because of "the velocity of the plane" and "intense heat probably weakened the structure as well", and who reportedly on that very day advised the White House to take Cipro, an effective antibiotic against anthrax, seven days before the commencement of an anthrax letters terror campaign

It wasn't Muslims who profited by speculating on airline and insurance stocks in advance of 9/11; it was Israelis.

It wasn't Muslims who had established a reputation for having the capability to stage false-flag terror attacks, i.e., to target U.S. forces and make it look like the act of a third party, prior to 9/11; it was the Mossad.

It wasn't a Muslim who infiltrated the Pentagon and betrayed his country of birth by selling classified documents to another country that were then traded to the USSR; it was convicted spy Jonathan Pollard whose treachery resulted in stolen nuclear secrets being passed on to the USSR with Israel as the paying intermediary.

It wasn't Muslims who were running an exercise commencing at 9:00 a.m. on the morning of 9/11 involving a plane crashing into a tower; it was officials at the National Reconnaissance Office, Chantilly, VA.

It wasn't Muslims who in 2000 co-authored a document which called for a "new Pearl Harbor"; it was Roger Barnett, Alvin Bernstein, Stephen Cambone, Eliot Cohen, Devon Gaffney Cross, Thomas Donnelly, David Epstein, David Fautua, Dan Goure, Donald Kagan, Fred Kagan, Robert Kagan, Robert Killebrew, William Kristol, Mark Lagon, James Lasswell, I. Lewis Libby, Robert Martinage, Phil Meilinger, Mackubin Owens, Steve Rosen, Gary Schmitt, Abram Shulsky, Michael Vickers, Barry Watts, Paul Wolfowitz, and Rabbi Dov Zakheim.

It wasn't a Muslim who, in a 1995 book, predicted that "if the West doesn’t wake up to the suicidal nature of militant Islam, the next thing you will see is militant Islam is bringing down the World Trade Center"; it was Benjamin Netanyahu.

It wasn't Muslims who paid Ali al-Jarrah more than $300,000 for services rendered, i.e., posing as a "supporter" of the Palestinian cause while betraying his country to an enemy state, and who was a cousin of Ziad al-Jarrah who was alleged to be one of nineteen 9/11 "suicide hijackers"; it was Israel that paid this Mossad asset.


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Hold on.

Let me get Kojak to solve the case..

mannn you talk about "muslims muslims islam islam",

where the h are muslims??? the most disunited people on earth. stop crying, you are weak from within.

It's not me speaking here, if you can read properly it is an article speaking to you. If you do not wish to be addressed here in this article, please ignore and move on....!

Because there are a huge number of good people around the world who have caught up with this mischief being perpetrated upon the ordinary people, with the help of corrupt governments.
They are quite happy to hold the mantle for you !

Al Qaeda and the "War on Terrorism"

Your still stuck trying to change history. People do that when they have no control over their present.

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Anybody interested in reading articles can actually find tons of similar articles using google . Forums are for discussing these articles and members are intested in the posters speaking to them not the articles speaking. And anyways this is a dumb article.

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Speaking to Pakistani business leaders, Chinese ambassador Luo Zhaohui pointedly voiced concern about the growth of "outside influence" in the region. He singled out the US in particular, saying that China was worried about US policies and the presence of a large number of foreign troops in neighbouring Afghanistan. While reiterating China’s support for "the fight against terror," Luo declared that US strategies needed some "corrective measures". He added, "These are issues of serious concern for China."

Under intense pressure from the US, the Pakistani army has launched a large-scale offensive against militants in the Swat Valley in which hundreds have already died and hundreds of thousands of civilians have been forced to flee.

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China should have first asked the Pakistani Generals : "How much is Washington paying you to kill your People"

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Knowing and promoting one thing and writing something else to deceive public

The Pakistani army is composed mostly of Punjabis. The Taliban is entirely Pashtun. For centuries, Pashtuns living in the mountainous borderlands of Pakistan and Afghanistan have fought to keep out invading Punjabi plainsmen. So sending Punjabi soldiers into Pashtun territory to fight jihadists pushes the country ever closer to an ethnically defined civil war, strengthening Pashtun sentiment for an independent “Pashtunistan” that would embrace 41 million people in big chunks of Pakistan and Afghanistan.

To American eyes the struggle raging in Pakistan with the Taliban is about religious fanaticism. But in Pakistan it is about an explosive fusion of Islamist zeal and simmering ethnic tensions that have been exacerbated by U.S. pressures for military action against the Taliban and its al-Qaeda allies. Understanding the ethnic dimension of the conflict is the key to a successful strategy for separating the Taliban from al-Qaeda and stabilizing multiethnic Pakistan politically.

Did you notice from the events in Pakistan how religious sentiments have deliberately been mixed with nationalistic and ethnic sentiments. Use one dominant group to kill another. Propagate the lies that the victims are terrorists, Islamists, Talibs. Pay others so that they could declare the invaders of Pashtun villages and towns as Kafirs, that will automatically bring religious flavor to the conflict. Supports others from outside so that their terrorist acts could be blamed on the non-existent al-Qaeda and tensions could never ease and the conflict escalates with each passing day.

This article describes exactly how the US proceeded in its war on Pakistan. It only needs a carefully eye to read the propaganda between the lines.

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You are a hopeless case.....It seems you have an agenda to spread confusions...Infact it is you who is totally confused...Sometimes you post articles favouring talibans, some time you declare them as the instruments of US & Al-Qaeda.....some times you blame the army who is going to stopp militancy in pakistan....Sometimes you pose yourself as a Muslim who is longing for the revival of Khilafah...Some times you cry for the rights of Balouch liberation movement and some times you see punjabi hegemony...Sometimes you believe that Jinnah was a british agent...
Get a life...I am sure that neither you are a Pakistani nor you have any interest in Islam...This artiicle which you posted is about the 9/11 theories..Now how it is related with the Tiltle of your thread "War on terror in Pakistan"?????????????

Shouldn't you ask the people that you are defending, how much they are getting paid to kill their own people?

As for the video camera's fixated at the WTC at the time on 09/11 incident, NYC is a tourist city. There are tourists in that area from all over the world all the time. And they do like to make movie of the tall buildings.

We may not know who the mastermind was, but muslims did become tools in this excercise.

Yes, it is confusing to someone who is prejudice like yourself, you prefer to blot out the realities that brought us here.

Ignoring the role that America & Pakistan played to prop up the Taliban is foolish to ignore. Also, it is ignorance on your part to assume that there is any truth in this fabricated "War on Terror" . It is in reality, to target Muslim countries and make the citizens destitute & into refugees.

Obviously, if (so called) Muslim Governments, Politicians or their Cronies perpetrate acts of Genocide upon their peoples, why are you so confused, hesitant or reluctant to oppose it outright.

There should be absolutely no selective criteria in condemning any acts of Terror or Genocide upon the ordinary peoples, regardless of who is the Oppressor.

You should rather be asking yourself, why is Washington funding both the Taliban and the Pak Army.

Let me JOG your memory :

Remember when Dubya Bush Attacked & Invaded Afghanistan, when he should have invaded Israel. It's a foregone conclusion that Zionists did 9/11.

What was the Motive to Invade Afghanistan and now.....Pakistan.

Military force will not win the day in either Afghanistan or Pakistan; crises have only grown worse under the US military footprint.

The Taleban represent zealous and largely ignorant mountain Islamists. They are also all ethnic Pashtuns. Most Pashtuns see the Taleban — like them or not — as the primary vehicle for restoration of Pashtun power in Afghanistan, lost in 2001. Pashtuns are also among the most fiercely nationalist, tribalized and xenophobic peoples of the world, united only against the foreign invader. In the end, the Taleban are probably more Pashtun than they are Islamist.


It is a fantasy to think of ever sealing the Pakistan-Afghanistan border. The “Durand Line” is an arbitrary imperial line drawn through Pashtun tribes on both sides of the border. And there are twice as many Pashtuns in Pakistan as there are in Afghanistan. The struggle of 13 million Afghan Pashtuns has already enflamed Pakistan’s 28 million Pashtuns

If the Pak Army is being hired by Washington to wash their dirty linen, it won't be long before both get quagmired into the same trap.

This guy needs to be banned!!!!!

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Pakistan’s Ethnic Fault Line


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Cynicism among Pakistani Refugees

By Abdul Hai Kakar

Unanimous statements coming out from the Refugees......

"The Taleban captured our area and started patrolling the streets, they snatched vehicles from NGO staff, government officials and private individuals, and they threatened local people," says Nasir Ali, a high school student.

"But it wasn't as bad as the shelling by the army - that was what actually forced us to leave our homes."

I interviewed a large number of refugees in Swabi, but I did not meet a single person who actually saw the army and the Taleban as members of opposing camps.

Instead, I heard, they were "two sides of the same coin".

"The Pakistani army has hurt us badly - but while they have killed civilians, I swear I haven't seen a single shell directed at the Taleban," says Shahdad Khan, a refugee sheltering at a camp in Swabi's Shave Ada area.

Others question the Pakistani military's stated commitment to "eliminating" the Taleban.

"No way," Siraj tells me.

"The army brought the Taleban to our area! It's politics. The Taleban and the army are brothers."

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