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Army called to protect Islamabad’s diplomatic enclave

ISLAMABAD: The Interior Ministry called on the Pakistan Army here on Thursday as over a thousand enraged protesters attempted to reach Islamabad’s heavily-guarded diplomatic enclave in a bid to register their protest against a US-made anti-Islam film.
At least 11 people were injured Thursday as police fired live rounds and tear gas to break up a large crowd of over 1,000 students, many armed with wooden clubs.
The enraged students clashed with law enforcement agencies, pelting them with stones. Several protestors were eventually able to enter the high security Red Zone.
Islamabad’s heavily-guarded diplomatic enclave is home to most Western embassies, including the US, British and French missions.
The crudely made “Innocence of Muslims” has triggered protests in at least 20 countries since excerpts were posted online, and more than 30 people have been killed in violence linked to the film.
There have been dozens of protests around Pakistan over the past week and at least two people have been killed, but Thursday is the first time protests in the capital have turned violent.
Police fired tear gas and live rounds as the protesters tried to break through a barrier of truck containers set up to block access to the diplomatic enclave.
“I was ordered by my boss to disperse the crowd and that is why I had to open live fire but the aim was nearby trees and not the demonstrators,” Zaman Khan, a police officer deployed at the picket said.
The firing forced the protesters to scatter, but they returned later to pelt the police picket with stones.
Student Asif Mehmood demanded police let the protesters through to the US embassy.
Fellow protester Rehan Ahmad said: “Islam is often ridiculed by America and the West and blasphemy is committed against our prophet in the name of freedom of expression.” - DAWN

Yes, YES! Destroy your own country because of something, someone else did! This is all in the name of Islam, right?
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Qts is why so much problem with protests? Tumhare abbe ke ghar par to protest nahi kar rahe na lala ji
meine socha mein namaaz paro ke protest karoon . maine socha namaaz paron. tum jaake protest karo na? nahi nahi tum to pakstop pe beth ke choti choti baatein karonge. kuttey ki pooch teri ki teri ki rehti hai
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because namaz is farz, protest is not! did anyone stop in B/W protests to pray?
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meine socha mein namaaz paro ke protest karoon . maine socha namaaz paron. tum jaake protest karo na? nahi nahi tum to pakstop pe beth ke choti choti baatein karonge. kuttey ki pooch teri ki teri ki rehti hai
takes one to know one i guess Pait main lala ji ke kyun dard hai? mujhe itna bata do hum musalmaan pakistani kuch bhi karain tumhare bawa ki jaib se to kuch nahi ja raha na
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U deduced my maturity level from that one pic? Tell me where did you study psychology :condescendingwonka:
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Total number of protestors yesterday front of embassy: 500 - 2 killed by Police firing and several injured. How the heck police couldn't control 500 protestors.

Total Protestors in Karachi: 1000, couple killed and several injured once again failure of police.

Today Total Protestors in Isb in Red Zone: 3000 max once again police failure, cuz haramkhoor don't know crowd control. Protestors dispersed without problem before army arrival by evening.

The biggest rally in Karachi: Majlis wahadat ul musleemeen, when protestors started trouble, Majlis leaders jumped in peacefully diverted the protestors toward numaish chorangi away from Consulate.

ll other rallies protestors were peaceful including Christains biggest rally.

1st look at numbers of protestors, 2nd look at intensity and compare to all political strikes and protests and then tally the damage done still less the what happened on 12th may alone, not to mention the daily amount of dead bodies falling in karachi alone.

From top clerics, religious parties to media everyone have been on tv everyday asking for calm calm and calm and thats the effort of the clerics, religious parties and media that this time around situation is very much in control compare to what happened when protest erupted on danish cartoon or satanic verses.

Overall things have been comparitively calm, given the attitude of protests in countries like Pakistan, egypt etc I would say on whole its an improvement and hopefully with time it will keep getting better,

But instead of thinking things through you got start complaining, so my qts to you is what have u done to show ur anger and hurt on this movie and the recent cartoons? You don't agree with protest fine don't agree, hell criticize if u want, just don't preach.

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Total number of protestors yesterday front of embassy: 500 - 2 killed by Police firing and several injured. How the heck police couldn't control 500 protestors.

Total Protestors in Karachi: 1000, couple killed and several injured once again failure of police.

Today Total Protestors in Isb in Red Zone: 3000 max once again police failure, cuz haramkhoor don't know crowd control. Protestors dispersed without problem before army arrival by evening.

The biggest rally in Karachi: Majlis wahadat ul musleemeen, when protestors started trouble, Majlis leaders jumped in peacefully diverted the protestors toward numaish chorangi away from Consulate.

ll other rallies protestors were peaceful including Christains biggest rally.

1st look at numbers of protestors, 2nd look at intensity and compare to all political strikes and protests and then tally the damage done still less the what happened on 12th may alone, not to mention the daily amount of dead bodies falling in karachi alone.

From top clerics, religious parties to media everyone have been on tv everyday asking for calm calm and calm and thats the effort of the clerics, religious parties and media that this time around situation is very much in control compare to what happened when protest erupted on danish cartoon or satanic verses.

Overall things have been comparitively calm, given the attitude of protests in countries like Pakistan, egypt etc I would say on whole its an improvement and hopefully with time it will keep getting better,

But instead of thinking things through you got start complaining, so my qts to you is what have u done to show ur anger and hurt on this movie and the recent cartoons? You don't agree with protest fine don't agree, hell criticize if u want, just don't preach.

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Exactly what I am doing not preaching! I don't have to protest, what will happen tell when we simply ignore it? I protested it in my circles, through dialog and intellectual discussion. I don't believe anything is wrong with protests "peaceful protests" that is. But calling for people's heads that something else. And calling people "Yahoodi" for not joining them in the protest, and filing a blasphemy case against those who try and stop it. Well that is something else.

I don't what you have been watching but none of these protests that you described were peaceful. And somehow all the blame turns to police, somehow i don't believe that police started to throw stones and marched toward the Amreeke embassy.
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Exactly what I am doing not preaching! I don't have to protest, what will happen tell when we simply ignore it? I protested it in my circles, through dialog and intellectual discussion. I don't believe anything is wrong with protests "peaceful protests" that is. But calling for people's heads that something else. And calling people "Yahoodi" for not joining them in the protest, and filing a blasphemy case against those who try and stop it. Well that is something else.

I don't what you have been watching but none of these protests that you described were peaceful. And somehow all the blame turns to police, somehow i don't believe that police started to throw stones and marched toward the Amreeke embassy.

Shukar karoo peaceful they in pak context agar nahi hote Islamabad wouldn't be standing.

No one called for anyone's head did u hear anywhere in Muslim world any fatwa? Except for some ordinary dudes on the street.

Try understanding the context, personally I usually avoid physical fight I usually believe i can answer with words much better yet even i would lose my temper if someone insult my Prophet (PBUH), u don't get mad good of u, not everyone can be as rational as u r.

I still think on a whole given pak situation and context of protests these have been relatively peaceful, u don't agree fine as I said u can even criticize it to ur heart's content, but don't preach, thats what u doing preaching by saying oh muslims in name of prophet PBUH what u doing etc etc thats preaching, and that is my objection.

Ppl writing in english dailies in pak and so called liberals been preaching abt no protest and ignore or invoking Islam are the same who donot want religion any part of society yet are more then willing to invoke islam's name and teaching.
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No one called for anyone's head did u hear anywhere in Muslim world any fatwa? Except for some ordinary dudes on the street.

Try understanding the context, personally I usually avoid physical fight I usually believe i can answer with words much better yet even i would lose my temper if someone insult my Prophet (PBUH), u don't get mad good of u, not everyone can be as rational as u r.

I still think on a whole given pak situation and context of protests these have been relatively peaceful, u don't agree fine as I said u can even criticize it to ur heart's content, but don't preach, thats what u doing preaching by saying oh muslims in name of prophet PBUH what u doing etc etc thats preaching, and that is my objection.

Ppl writing in english dailies in pak and so called liberals been preaching abt no protest and ignore or invoking Islam are the same who donot want religion any part of society yet are more then willing to invoke islam's name and teaching.
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"Islambad wouldn't be standing"....my ass. Abb aik 'naya' issue mil gaya hai propaganda ke liye jis pe rakh ke Bandokh chaliaynge. Go ahead try it, try all you can on the back of all filthy intentions, and try with all internal and external help....and then let the World see who will come to protect Islamabad.

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BTW liberals writing in the newspaper isn't causing any bloodshed in the streets. That's not preaching. Nobody is getting wrongfully accused of blasphemy because of their writing in freaking newspaper. That's how civilized people do, they indulge in dialogue. You have objection, why don't you start writing as well. With the growing tilt towards the right in that society, I am pretty sure you'll find sizable audience. In fact, I have read people on ET and DAWN and other newspapers who purport conservative views, only difference between them and you is they bring dialogue in reply of argument. And initiate one as well if they feel like they have to opine on something. I may have difference with their opinion but I am not against their mode of representation.
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BTW liberals writing in the newspaper isn't causing any bloodshed in the streets. That's not preaching. Nobody is getting wrongfully accused of blasphemy because of their writing in freaking newspaper. That's how civilized people do, they indulge in dialogue. You have objection, why don't you start writing as well. With the growing tilt towards the right in that society, I am pretty sure you'll find sizable audience. In fact, I have read people on ET and DAWN and other newspapers who purport conservative views, only difference between them and you is they bring dialogue in reply of argument. And initiate one as well if they feel like they have to opine on something. I may have difference with their opinion but I am not against their mode of representation.
that's the problem with pakistan. no tolerance, no respect. might is right and jungle ka kanoon reigns supreme. and then people like cyborg talk shit about liberals, when all we want is a society in which people can live in peace and harmony and make that seem like the most absurd request and desire in the world. yes, much more normal to break cars and set people on fire
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