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you can deny it all you want, but this is what we have become. over the last few years, we've seen all sorts of people take justice into their own hands and commit horrible crimes. i give you example of faisal shehzad, pakistani american who was successful but still got tempted to launch bomb in nyc. there were sialkot brothers brutally murdered while huge mob cheered on the assailants and did not help innocent people. taseer was murdered by his own body guard. i'm not even going to go into blashphemy where innocent people get assaulted on a seemingly daily basis. so many examples of vigilante justice being conducted, and not just by poor people, but by ordnary people just waiting for a chance to unleash all their frustrations. show me other countries where such crimes are happening on a daily basis, in all regions of the country, by people from all walks of life not just one group. show me and i'll retract my statement that pakistanis have an inner deamon.
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Ok this is now turning into stupid argument, this might have u become don;t fucking call all pakistanis murders otherwise don't call urself pakistani, don't like it stay the fuck out of pakistan.
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08-24-2012, 07:47 AM
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Ok this is now turning into stupid argument, this might have u become don;t fucking call all pakistanis murders otherwise don't call urself pakistani, don't like it stay the fuck out of pakistan.
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i didn't call all pakistanis murderers, i'm saying that we have a problem of intolerance in our country and a growing sense of mob justice that people can do whatever they want because of crap law and order situation. if you want to bury your head in the sand go ahead. but its my country, and i'm damn well free to say whatever i want about it. you have your ideas how to make it better, i have mine.
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08-24-2012, 08:09 AM
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Only one thing remembered, The hostel. I think our people actually might like hurting other people.
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08-24-2012, 08:20 AM
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Same stupid cultural mentallity persists in india as it does in pakistan.
These guys could be hindus, sikh, muslims, or even christians, would not surprise me a bit. Honor and vigilante justice are a trademark of our society.
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08-24-2012, 08:23 AM
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i didn't call all pakistanis murderers, i'm saying that we have a problem of intolerance in our country and a growing sense of mob justice that people can do whatever they want because of crap law and order situation. if you want to bury your head in the sand go ahead. but its my country, and i'm damn well free to say whatever i want about it. you have your ideas how to make it better, i have mine.
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Yes u did from ur own post which is post # 2 of this thread
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our country is full of animals and we are a violent and intolerant bunch. seems like each of us has the devil lurking inside, all we need is an opportunity to unleash it.
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08-24-2012, 11:05 AM
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Same stupid cultural mentallity persists in india as it does in pakistan.
These guys could be hindus, sikh, muslims, or even christians, would not surprise me a bit. Honor and vigilante justice are a trademark of our society.
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right on spot. It has nothing to do with religion but our society in which the majority is simply uneducated and intolerant. However to be honest such things would have been a standard in Europe too but the difference was obtained and sustained by the strong system of law put in place by the government. Everyone takes a strong stance against the law culprits initially, which then converts into a standard practice for/by everyone.
Our system is simply crap!
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08-25-2012, 04:42 AM
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where in quran or hadith it says to cut off peoples eyes lips tongue and nose? plz someone show me where it says this?
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lol hahahah
as if rest of the entire country takes Islam Quran and hadeeth as the driving and guiding force in EVERY single matter of their daily lives? why you gotta bring islam and quran into it? Does Islam and Quran permit hitting on someone's wife? NO! Does quran and hadeeth permit to chop off someone's organs for hitting on someone's wife? NO! So where is the quran and hadeeth link? We dont have any correct implementation of Quran and hadeeth in our country so lets put this aside.
Here is my stance on it.
No matter how deeply you condemn it, the words cannot express the feeling of sorrow.; however, every country and every society has different set of values. Here in the west, locals prolly wont get a whole lot offended if you cuss out at someone's sister but they will turn hell loose on you if you defame them by their skin color. And it's quite the opposite of it in, for example, Pakistan. You call someone Kaalu, or kala and the person wont give a crap about it but try cussing out at his sister and then see how you invoke the animal outta it.
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08-25-2012, 04:52 AM
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yeah questioning thier faith and calling everyone blood thirsty animal gonna really make them accept your message 
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When an educated and well versed individual like you make an ignorant statements like this, it says all how much education has helped in refining the mindset. More over it also says a lot about where we stand collectively as a nation, completely in denial and completely indifferent about direction we are heading.
It is also such a shame that a good amount of Pakistan's educated crowd is also hijacked by this mindset. Diverting the issue and creating unnecessary excuses for the culprit, I don't even know where the hell we are heading.
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lol hahahah
as if rest of the entire country takes Islam Quran and hadeeth as the driving and guiding force in EVERY single matter of their daily lives? why you gotta bring islam and quran into it? Does Islam and Quran permit hitting on someone's wife? NO! Does quran and hadeeth permit to chop off someone's organs for hitting on someone's wife? NO! So where is the quran and hadeeth link? We dont have any correct implementation of Quran and hadeeth in our country so lets put this aside.
Here is my stance on it.
No matter how deeply you condemn it, the words cannot express the feeling of sorrow.; however, every country and every society has different set of values. Here in the west, locals prolly wont get a whole lot offended if you cuss out at someone's sister but they will turn hell loose on you if you defame them by their skin color. And it's quite the opposite of it in, for example, Pakistan. You call someone Kaalu, or kala and the person wont give a crap about it but try cussing out at his sister and then see how you invoke the animal outta it.
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already answered your claims, plz see the post below. it's not about islam but about intolerance. not saying crimes do not exist elsewhere or that other places are perfect. but just pointing out the trend we are seeing in pakistan, and if it's not stopped it will culminate in civil war.
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its not about islam its about a growing trend of intolerance and mob justice in pakistan. people are not afraid of the law, they take matters into their own hands. and not only that, they commit violent, henious crimes, and then expect to get away with it. it has nothing to do with islam, it has to do with the level of frustration in our society. now there are other issues, like blashphemy law, which are very much related to how islam is practiced and forced in pakistani society. but this issue does not have to do with religion, it has to do with frustration and lack of law and order. basically all things you need to feel safe at home are absent in pakistan. at any time anyone can take someones life or commit violent crimes. its happening in every city, in every province. it's being done by rich people and by poor people, by educated and uneducated people alike. thats the point i am making, pakistanis have this inner demon inside them, just waiting to come out and do awful things, all they need is a spark. this is a very dangerous trend, and it needs to be addressed on an individual level. otherwise, this country is on the brink of a civil war.
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08-26-2012, 10:30 AM
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lol hahahah
as if rest of the entire country takes Islam Quran and hadeeth as the driving and guiding force in EVERY single matter of their daily lives? why you gotta bring islam and quran into it? Does Islam and Quran permit hitting on someone's wife? NO! Does quran and hadeeth permit to chop off someone's organs for hitting on someone's wife? NO! So where is the quran and hadeeth link? We dont have any correct implementation of Quran and hadeeth in our country so lets put this aside.
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BF, good for pointing out. Its not about Islam yet some people spew spasm fits over Islam
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