lol haha kissi ko dil pay bohot zor ki lagi..hahahaha..lol this made my day

Python indian are you even kashmiri? i doubt it.


By the way, your posts look like SMS messages. please use english so we can understand what you are saying.

Massive protests paralyse held Kashmir




Sunday, June 29, 2008
HELD SRINAGAR: Sixty people, including Kashmiri leader Yasin Malik, were injured when the police and protesters clashed for a sixth day on Saturday in held Kashmir as resistance to the transfer of land to a Hindu pilgrim group deepened.

Shops, offices and banks remained shut for the sixth consecutive day, as protests spread to other parts of the Kashmir valley.

Riot police fired tear gas shells and shots in the air to disperse tens of thousands of protesters at over a dozen places, injuring 45 demonstrators, police and residents said. Fifteen policemen were also hurt.

Yasin Malik, a key separatist leading one of the protests, was also hurt, police officer Pervez Ahmed said. His senior aide Noor Muhammad Kalwal was also injured.

Both of them were hospitalised, said Altaf Khan, the spokesman of their group.

Thousands of people marched from downtown Srinagar to the commercial area of the Lal Chowk, chanting “We want freedom” and “We will not allow the sale of Kashmir.”

They hoisted Pakistani flags on the Ganta Ghar and another green flag in front of the Radio Kashmir office.

The protesters pelted stones at police officers and damaged at least two police stations.

The protests continued on Saturday evening and the police used teargas canisters to push the demonstrators back.

Tensions have remained high despite a promise by the state’s chief minister that no construction would be permitted until further notice.

“It will become impossible for the (separatist) leadership to control the public anger if the order is not revoked immediately,” said Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, the head of the All Parties Hurriyat Conference (APHC).

Meanwhile, People’s Democratic Party chief Mehbooba Mufti told reporters here his party had decided to withdraw its support to the ruling coalition since the state government had not revoked the land transfer order.

"We can’t remain insensitive to the sufferings of the people,” she said, referring to the use of force against the protesters.

Source: The NEws

Its election time.political party especially pdp is doing politics to get the votes.congress lacks vision.i think india has given2much freedom2antinational parties like hurriyat,jklf.pdp,national conference are local parties and they ll do anything to gain votebank.bjp,congress should think in national interest and revoke article370,ban hurriyat,jklf;ban any public gathering.

Maybe yu shoudl look at this

source: bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/h...el_manager.stm

Mohammad Sadiq, 45, runs the Siachen Hotel in the town of Kargil, close to the Line of Control which separates Indian and Pakistani-administered Kashmir. Very popular with journalists, it was the only functional hotel during the Kargil conflict between India and Pakistan in 1999. Part of the hotel was damaged in Pakistani shelling, a grim reminder of the continued stand-off over Kashmir between the two nuclear neighbours.
I have been running the Siachen Hotel in the town of Kargil for the past 17 years. It was inaugurated in 1986.

Business this year has been the worst ever because of the border tension between India and Pakistan. There have hardly been any foreign tourists and we had many people calling us from overseas to cancel their bookings.




Every time there is an increase in tension between the two countries, we come under heavy bombing. We have to leave our homes, our belongings, our lives



This is a major transit point for mountaineers who enjoy trekking in the Himalayas. But this year the tourists have kept away and we have been wiped out.

Since the Kargil conflict between India and Pakistan in 1999 things improved a bit. Last year tourist traffic picked up. But not this year.

We desperately need India and Pakistan to sort things out once and for all. There has been too much violence and we need to put an end to it quickly.

Things are particularly bad for us because we are right on the frontline.

We are at the receiving end of Pakistan's heavy shelling and it has destroyed our lives.

Every time there is an increase in tension between the two countries, we come under heavy bombing.


"Business is bad because of the ongoing tension"

We have to leave our homes, our belongings, our lives. It disrupts us and we have suffered as a result.

It is particularly difficult for us to accept this reality because the separatist movement has not really been much of an issue in Kargil.

We back India and want to continue being a part of it. We have not had the kind of separatist violence that has affected other parts of Kashmir.

Despite that, we seem to have suffered more than most.

And since the 1999 clash, we have come into focus for all the wrong reasons. We have had a huge military presence and bases have come up all over.

Memories of the Kargil conflict

I still remember the Kargil conflict vividly.

Local shepherds, grazing their cattle in the mountains, noticed that some strange men had taken up positions on the mountain peaks.

They alerted the Indian army and it was only then that Indian troops were rushed to the area to begin defending the territory.

In the days that followed, the whole town emptied out. Our main market, which is normally bustling and full of people, was completely deserted. The only people around were journalists and other outsiders.

The residents of the town fled to nearby villages. People would travel back to Kargil once every week to see if their house was still standing - and leave right away til the next visit.

I really don't know what's in store for us. We hear that there are various initiatives to get all the sides together in a process of dialogue.

But until it happens and there is some kind of resolution, there is not much point in paying too much attention.

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Sajjad Hussain, 19, is a student in a polytechnic in Kargil, Kashmir. His family is originally from Baltistan, which lies in Pakistan's disputed Northern Areas. Passionate about the issues that confront his generation he is involved in student politics. He has lived in Kargil all his life and lives at home with his parents and two sisters.

I grew up in Kargil and have lived here all my life. I am proud to be a Kashmiri.


Different ethnic groups live side by side in Kargil

This is a state rich in its cultural heritage. We have Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists living side by side and in harmony for generations.

Unfortunately, everything in Kashmir today has become associated with the religious divide. The Hindus and Buddhists who have lived with us for generations want out.

That is because their minds are being poisoned by interest groups and political parties - not because of any inherent problems between us.

Standing by India

The people of this part of Kashmir have always stood by India. When Pakistani intruders tried to cross into Kargil in the summer of 1999, we alerted the Indian army.

But look at our living conditions. We don't have proper roads, hospitals or schools. Kargil is the poorest corner of Kashmir - our markets are falling apart, our streets are filthy.


There are many young people in Kashmir today who are frustrated and disillusioned. They need something to look forward to and someone to look up to.

But even more than the Delhi government, we blame our state administration and the ruling National Conference.

They have done nothing to improve our lives. They get a huge amount of funds from the federal government.

The money passes from Delhi to the state government, ministers, bureaucrats and local administrators. After they have all taken their cut, what's left for us?

What this state lacks is leadership. We need somebody with vision and somebody who will look our for us.

I don't blame Delhi for all that's wrong with us. But I blame them for banking on Kashmiri politicians who only enrich themselves and care for no-one else's welfare.

We are being asked to vote and choose our representatives. Who do we pick? I haven't seen a single party or politician with a programme that talks about our problems or deals with issues close to our heart.

Divided and isolated

Kargil is an isolated town. We used to part of a larger state with close links to Baltistan and Gilgit, as well as the Kashmir Valley. Historically, we even had ties to Central Asia and Tibet. Our ancestors came from Iran.

But look at us today. We are split into three units - and divided between India, Pakistan and China. And now people want us to be divided further.

There are proposals, internationally-backed, to turn the Line of Control into an international border between India and Pakistan.

How can plans be made to divide us without consulting those who live here?


We live in constant fear of being shelled

We don't like Pakistan. We live in constant fear of being shelled by the Pakistani army. They destroy our homes and our lives.

Today we were shelled for hours. Our new airport, which is yet to open, was targeted.

India has yet to get us an air link which will connect us to the rest of the country. Pakistan wants to ensure we stay unconnected. That's our reality.

India is a democratic country and we have faith in its democracy and its commitment to a multi-faith society.

All we ask for is for somebody to stand up for us and our aspirations. There are many young people in Kashmir today who are frustrated and disillusioned.

They need something to look forward to and someone to look up to.

We have dreams as well but at the moment we have no hope of turning them into a reality.

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anoher one here.. he blamed indians for it. but nowhere did he feels a part of pakistan...........

Ghulam Mohiuddin Khan, 24, is a waiter in the ski resort town of Gulmarg. He has travelled across Kashmir in search of work and has lived in Srinagar, Anantnag and Kargil. A one-time supporter of the main separatist alliance, the Hurriyat Conference, he now feels let down by the Kashmiri political leadership. He is uneducated and wants to save up enough money to go to college.
Our life in Kashmir is not good at all. I have been working as a waiter since 1987. Things were pretty good then. It was peaceful and we had plenty of work. But since then it has been down hill.

It was after the elections of 1987 that the militant movement really took off. There was real enthusiasm among Kashmiris that year - I was pretty young then but people around me wanted to vote and bring to power people who could represent us.




I don't have any big dreams. I don't have much hope. I would like to have a quiet life with a steady job, nothing too ambitious. Just enough to make ends meet.



But the story of those elections are well known to all of us. The results did not reflect the reality - the vote was badly rigged and with it died our hope that we would get the elected representatives that we really wanted.

Since then we have had nothing but violence. The militant movement which has hit us since has hurt us badly.

Business is very bad. We have been suffering for the past 14 years. We sit at home, we can't go out. It's a terrible life.

There's too much tension around us, especially if you are young. The militants target us, they want to use us as fresh recruits. They offer us incentives including money.

But it's too dangerous. The army crackdown is very heavy and if you get caught, your survival is at stake.

In recent years, the militants have become more demanding. They ask us for money and force many young men to join them and attack the security forces. But all that happens is that we get caught, tortured by the security forces and in some cases, killed.

Caught in the middle

In Kashmir there are no human rights. The world over people talk about human rights violations but they seem to overlook it when it comes to us.


"All we want is to be left alone to lead our lives in peace"

Everyday here people get hurt and some die. We are caught in the middle of two groups slugging it out - the security forces and the militants are fighting a war and we are right in the middle of it all.

All we want is peace and to be left alone. Life is hard here - we need to be able to do ordinary everyday things without worrying about our safety.

We need to be able to go to the market, shop for food, go to school or college, or to work.

We should be allowed to lead normal lives like people all over the world.

What I want most of all is to go back to the days before 1987 - before the violence broke out - and we had regular lives.

I don't have any big dreams. I don't have much hope. I would like to have a quiet life with a steady job, nothing too ambitious. Just enough to make ends meet.

Someday we will have the political leaders we deserve. Some day we will be able to live our lives the way we used to - with dignity. I only hope it happens in my life time.

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kashmir kaa naam naheen laya oor in hinduoon kee jaal kaay haath maay aa jati haay ..

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You can post articles all you want, the ground realities are that the Kashmiri ppl do not want to be with India at all.

To suggest its a mere few ppl who are creating tension and what not is a bogus lie.

Read history, according to the UN a vote was to be held for the ppl to decide who to join or indeed get an independant country. Which the indian authorities know for a fact, they would lose anyday.

Bitter it may sound, i for one do not have any sympathies with the Kashmiri ppl, as whenever i have met most of them outside Pakistan, they introduce themselves as Kashmiri. Wheras all of their lives they have lived in Pakistan, slept, wept and worn as a Pakistani. They have Pakistani Passports, and are thankless. They have caused a huge brunt of weight on the economy and have no positive influence in any way on the Pakistani nation.

Not all of them though.

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dude., yu dont even know wat were the ground rules for that, the first point says Pakistan has to withdraw troops from PAK occupied kashmir and then the poll would be held, but pakistan didnt, dont blame India !!!

if you want post the UN convention points, it clearly states that pak troops have to withdraw which they didnt, and morevoer, atm, theres no way of having a poll, coz both parties can put ppl in for the electios..

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Most of the Pakistanis live in a Myth that Kashmiris wants to be a part of pakistan.....you guys have to come to the real world

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umm im kashmiri, so mys mom, and my grandparents, and my great grand parents. do they or i wanna be with india? NO! inshallah kashmir banayga pakistan.

sure, when you are so confident how about a plebiscite as per UN resolutions? If Kashmiris decide your way, you keep it.

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thats exactly what they will do once they get all the indians from the south settled there. then they will play the "secular democracy" card after that and make a fool out of the mainstream media.

lol haha this is just crazy, these people

@ SRK77
lol the article that you posted, the views that were taken, was written By BBC News Online's Sanjoy Majumder in Kashmir

So of ocurse he will have an obvious bias, what was posted above was facts, not some opinions…I know you to be a sensible person, you tell me, if I should you videos and articles about how the Indian military has attacked and raped the people of Kashmir, but its by a Pakistani guy, then you will not really buy into it. So it’s the same way, we can start our own propaganda over here, but what was presented were the facts..

So lets not get into all these how kashmiri people are, written by an indian, of course he will be biased, and post the comments which are anti-pakistan (maybe one of two which are not against Pakistani nor India)..lets be smart about it alright?

Lol a Myth??? Says who? You have no facts to back that, or anything else to back that apart from maybe Indians writing articles in Hindustan times, or Times of India..

What was presented on this thread were FACTS, actual news of what was happening..

Secondly, I don’t know if you attended the Kashmir Conference, held last summer at the Capital Hill, which was attended by the leaders of Kashmir which included Mirwaiz, Gilani, few professors from some leading universities in india, and also a few people from Pakistan attended the event. Other than that a lot of Kashmiris attended the event, which was open for all…over there the general notions amongst the Kashmiris was either to be a separate entity, or be part of Pakistan (some supporting each), only a handful wanted to be with India.

Another ground reality, Pakistani government has been backing the Kashmiris leaders call to let the Kashmiris decide what they want. Something the Indian government isn’t supporting just yet, which is why they are trying to change the demographics in Kashmir, and fill it up with people loyal to India.

So buddy you be living “in a Myth”

kaalay kashmiri

anybody married to a buffalo, with red eyes should not be allowed to vote in that plebiscite

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