Drone attacks kill 16 in Pakistan: officials - Yahoo! News

Why don't you people sweat over this issue? They are bending you over and doing you dirty. Yet all you see is the small stories from these villages and give Islam a bad name.

I and most of us here do not approve this. I am not a fan of Pakistani government and it's polices. It's hopeless since our politicians are paid to keep quite, there really isn't much anyone can do.

As far as the small village stories go, the fact is it should not happen big or small town. We are not here saying it's the teaching of Islam as we all know it has nothing to do with Islam. what concerns us is: Why are these people so retarded and misguided and where is police or other authorities? If actions are to be taken against these barbarians then we would not have this in the future.

The fact of the matter is there is no law in Pakistan. If you are well connected and have money than you can almost get away with anything.
Change this and you will have a better country.

yes, i don't give a crap about drone strikes. you want me to feel bad about something that pak government and pak army have both given permission for and are actively engaging in? sorry its not going to happen. it is true that drone strikes are illegal and a violation of soverignty. that said, pak government and military knows about it and has given the green light for it. army doesn't want to conduct a military operation in northern areas, which is stupid because it needs to be done, so this is a way they are tackling the problem of militancy within pakistan. drones have killed innocent people, but more often than not they kill militants who have strong anti-state feelings and are dangerous. if army will not do a full operation, then i'm glad at least some of these insects are being eliminated through these means. i have absolutely ZERO sympathy left for them after all the hell they have brought upon this people and our country. they have killed 30,000 innocent pakistanis, and hundreds if not thousands of jawaans of the armed forces. all they understand is violence and death, so i'm glad they are getting a taste of their own medicine.

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You don't give a crap that your people are dying? but you have sympathy for other. BRAVO

also mr halofreak, you're so quick to jump on threads in which violence is occuring not in the name of islam. why are you absent from the threads on militancy, islamic radicalism, and blashphemy? why don't you post about the illegal detention of the mentally retarded girl being held in prison after being abused by mobs? there are 1 billion muslims in the world, but show me one other country where such retarded laws exist and people are denied basic human rights? the problem is not islam, the problem is our retarded laws, and attacking the laws is not an attack on islam, it is an attack on inhumanity, intolerance, oppression, injustice, none of which by the way is islamic in any way shape or form. get that through your head, and speak out for what is wrong!

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i don't give a crap that militants and anti-state insects are dying. i hope they all die and none of them are left. they've killed 30,000 pakistanis, we should kill each and every last one of them until we are left with the beautiful peacefu state we once had. enough is enough, and time for eye-for-an-eye philosophy to reign supreme.

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Pray tell me when we had peaceful state? i would really like to know since inception we have had phadda somewhere in pakistan. This is disgraceful statement by you, how do u know only militants get killed? By all estimates innocent ppl get killed more then so called militants but then why am not surprised ur Messiah has declared anyone in vicinity of "terrorist" is a terrorist. And u have balls to criticize others for same thought process.

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So, because there is a droooone shtriike, it gives the pakistani mob to do whatever they want.


P.S. Btw, Pakistan agrees with the fact that these "foreigners" are terrorists, but we can't do anything since we are "over-stretched". Pakistan, itself, secretly allow these drone strikes (it isn't hard to shoot down a predator) so what is left to discuss???

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and that makes it ok? Loss of human life doesn't count? We can arbitarily kill anyone we deemed to be a terrorist? then why u guys cries when govt does same in Baluchistan?

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anyone who wants to take law and order into their own hands is a terrorist as far as i'm concerned. and i have no sympathy for these people. you want to assault, rape, maim, kill other people, then be prepared for retribution. eye for an eye. i'm tired of peacefully trying to solve this crisis, it doesn't work.

and give me a break, this trend of vigilante justie and mob mentality is new, only in last 5-7 years. sure we have never had peace in the western interpretation of the word, but since 9/11 we have become a more violent and less tolerant country, where people are prepaed to take law and order into their own hand, and target people who are different than them. this is undeniable. it's been over 10 years, and i'm sick of ordinary pakistanis suffering the consequences. these insects need to be stomped out of our country before they get any deeper. at the same time, individuals need to have softer hearts and take their inner beasts. if we can do these things together, then in the coming years pakistan will be a better place. if not, we will descend into civil war, guaranteed.

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loss of life of people who themselves want to kill and hurt others does not count. absolutely. anyone willing take law and order situation into their own hands should be killed before they have the opportunity to do so. i am a doctor and do not want to see innocent people suffer, but those willing to take law and order into their own hands are not innocent and part of the problem and need to be eliminated rapidly. this process is not losing life, it's saving the lives of innocent people in the long run, and thats what i'm interested in, the long run and the future of our country.

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1 - lets start with 1st operation in Baluchistan in early 50's with all trouble brewing in east pakistan, to urdu speaking massacares, to rioting abt everything, to 90's ethnic clashes, heck anyone caught stealing always got a good beating anywhere in pak.

2 - Why we have become more violent society, ever thought of that? We have a war going one non-stop since 1979 on our western front in Afghanistan, we have severed in half in 1971, we have ethnic clashes going on since inception, we had baluch insurgency, we have Sindh insurgency, we had mqm. All those boree band lashes that started pre-9/11 all those torture cells in 80's. all those dalai camps in Bhutto era and i can go on and on.

3 - Pak Military launched Swat opearation been actively fighting insurgency in Agencies in FATA? How much we have won? How many officers young whose whole life was in front of them have been martyred, how many civilians have been killed fighting this war? So pray tell me how secure we are now, US had one 9/11 we have had so many I have even lost count, post 9/11 how many terrorist incidents have happened on US to scale of 9/11 or one we see here? The war has been brought to our door, they are talking with Talibaan in Afghanistan, we are left to pick the damn pieces, you care so much abt Pak start paying attention what been done to Pak and by whom? Who the heck been providing arms and logistical support to TTP? ever thought of that?

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i am fully aware that we have had tons of 9/11s since the one in the US, that's the bloody point. i am tired of pakistani 9/11s. i'm tired of suffering and i'm tired of the nation as a whole paying the price for the war that was brought to us. 9/11 attakers were not pakistanis, yet we are the ones suffering. borders were not secure so all the insects came into pakistan and have now infested every corner of our society. but the problem is deeper than just ttp and taliban. blasphemy cases are not only occuring in KP they are happening all over the country. taseer murder happened in federal capital, and all over the country qadri was declared a hero. so problem is not just ttp, problem is not just kp, problem is much deeper and has to do with more than just 9/11. that's why i'm sick and tired with the growing trend of intolernace and mob justice. war in afghanistan can end tomorrow won't make a damn bit of difference to law and order situation in pakistan for most people. i'm just tired of people taking law into their own hands, going around murdering who they like, assaulting who they like, and maiming who they like. this is why i have declared ANYONE taking law and order into their own hands a terrorist, and that should be the definition. and such terrorism should not be tolerated, it should be eliminated before it can surface.

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as far as who is providing ttp with funds, if you have proof on that then lets see it. it could be the US who funded AQ and are now fighting them, but would be highly idiotic. it could be india and RAW who wants a more established presence in afghanistan. but it could be the saudis, who breed hate and intolerance in the muslim world and where most 9/11 attackers were from. it could be other arab countries like syria, yemen, somalia and others that have proven links to militant groups. it could be the russians, who have supported taliban for years ideologically and financially. or, here's a shocker, it could be other pakistanis, who might support ttp ideologically but do not want to actually fight themselves so they provide funds. i was watching a story on dunya news the other day where they were showing how easy it was to buy army uniforms, police uniforms, and weapons in most cities in pakistan. so unsurprising that with a little cash, a lot of damange could be done from within. all of this is possible, as are other theories as well. you have just as much proof as i do, which is not much, because if i were obvious where their funds were coming from, it would be easy to stop them.

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Ok am not gonna answer cuz u have lost all ur reasoning, US would be idiotic to support AQ but KSA might who is sworn enemy of AQ and KSA would be suporting TTP to destablize pakistan to do what? Oh better yet they would be supporting Talibaan from 1000's miles away by some magic ofcoz one has to 4get the that KSA forced Pakistan to go to Mullah Omar and demand OBL or that KSA said wont be part of peace process in Afghanistan because Talibaan wont renounce AQ which have all been reported in western press so plz don't say its pakistani news.

Oh wait i know must be Pak Army and ISI supporting TTP so they can then attack the same Pak army or may be they sjupporting Talibaan by 1st handing over ex Talibaan ambassador Mullah Zaeef then having mullah badar in pak jail, wait I know ISI must be supporting Hikmatyaar who was residing in Iran pre-9/11 and was a persona Non-grata by ISI when they supported Talibaan rise against hikmatyaar

Yep i get it damn stupid Pakistani and ISI just like Kamran Shafi keep saying must be true.

God the stupidity.

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