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name one sector that government has run effectively since our inception. all sectors run by the government in pakistan are being run into the ground. in pakistan, the US republican model of less government is definitely the way to go.

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if pak govt has failed due to corruption it dun mean the model is bad, after all we built tarbela dam, the canal system, steel mills. All over the world big projects are done by Govts, so ur assertion that it doesn't is wrong look at china, for example.

In US all big projects were done by Govt whether alone or in govt-pvt sector joined, do research DAPRA.

As for republican model it has shown how good it is in regan times and in bush times both led to market collapse and huge unemployment.

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i'm not talking about the world, i'm talking about the PAKISTANI GOVERNMENT. there is no evidence to suggest they can handle large projects. every large project is riled with corruption and misappropriation of funds. all sectors have been run to the ground. no point comparing pak government to china and the US, Chinese are disciplined and americans are responsible. we are neither. in pakistan, most successful models are private endeavors. in healthcare, see edhi foundation. in education, see all private universities and schools in pakistan. not saying private companies have solved all the probelms, for example in transportation, private airlines are just as useless as PIA. however, there is ample evidence that private companies run by motivated individuals have done well in pakistan. same can't be said of the record of the pakistani government.

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how is power pvtization working out in Pak? PIA worked awesome one of the best airlines which set up others but when u run something only for corruption be it pvt or govt it gonna fail.

U asked regarding pak, Pak had PIA, Tarbela Dam, KAMRA, steel mills etc etc. You are mixing 2 diff things, one is big projects are underraken by govt as they are best suited financially and resource wise and other is corruption which has nothing to do with govt or pvt sector.

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i would argue there is a lot LOT more corruption in the public than private sector in pakistan, that's my point. i'm sure you are aware of just how much money has been stolen through pia alone, its shameful. a lot of private companies are not much better, but there is at least a track record of making a diffrence via private sector. seems like the public sector is just there to fund politicians' bank accounts.

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bhayya mera 500% corruption ho thats not the debate neither is the point u cant have only pvt sector built it thats a fact.

Ur mixing two diff topics, i have never said corruption doesn't exist, whether its 100 or 10000 x who cares its the feasibility of project whioch only govt can do, as much as edhi has done it still doesn't work unless we have govt run ambulances, universal health care is the only solution and only govt can provide it in the cheapest and efficient way.

Once again ur mixing 2 diff topics so plz stick to topic

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i don't think these are two different topics, these are very fundamentally related topics. you are saying as much as edhi has done it doesn't work until we have government intervention? why? have privatized hospitals which are plenty in pakistan right now, eliminate the DHQ model of healthcare delivery and privatize that sector. in pakistani government hospitals, the majority of the bills are not paid by the government they are paid by zakkat money that is donated by people of pakistan. keep that model of revenue generation but expand it by involving the private sector. we've already seen people like abrar, imran khan, adnan sami and others who have taken it upon themselves to build hospitals around the country. you can easily fundraise and get other wealthy individuals to contribute to this need as well. therefore i disagree that the government is essential for pakistani progress. i think all the government is doing is holding us back, because too many people are sitting aroudn waiting for the government to solve their problems. instead, if we empower the population, we'll be amazed at how much creativity and potential exists in pakistan. how many times have we read articles about pakistani scientists topping their class, or pakistani breaking a-level records? what good is this intelligence if not put towards solving the problems plauging our nation? the solutions lie in the private sector and with individuals. tihnking the government will solve our problems is hopless and delusional, our government has proven it is not interested in helping the common man.

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Ok this will be my last world on this topic if u continue on same line

1 - they are two different topics, corruption doesn't differenciate between pvt or govt sector so judging on corruption is not a criteria. Point is and remains that big projects need govt as i mentioned b4 in orms of subsidy, land allocations, tax breaks and loand guarantees or direct involvement, even in US in southern states all red and republicans, the autoplants got land tax breaks etc etc in return govt hope that will bring employment, govt was involved and remains involved and i can argue the shortfalls and defects of these policy but thats totally diff topic.

2 - Edhi, IK Cancer hospital can only provide impact locally they donot improve big picture for that one needs govt hence PTI wants power, these projects are dependent on donations and good will of govt, if govt decide to shut them they would be gone. A better example of how to impact lot of ppl and provide a sustainable is Shehzad Roy's zindagi trust, where u adopt a public school and provide edcuation and improve the existing system.

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Solar companies have ALREADY started producing these products. In the future, when demand grows, it is obvious these companies will profit. This is the basic, logic conclusion. State investment/subsidies always help, no one has stated otherwise, but having the state hand out benefits is one thing, having the state run something is another...

Solar is not the type of energy you usually implement full scale, as of yet. Solar energy right now in Pakistan is the type you can use during loadshedding hours. If the prices remain competitive with UPS or generators, then there is a good reason to believe this industry will thrive. If the industry thrives, there is good reason to believe that it will improve.

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