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Fifty Muslim scholars issue fatwa against Taliban

LAHORE: At least 50 Islamic scholars belonging to ‘Sunni Ittehad Council on Thursday declared Taliban’s attack on Pakistani children’s rights activist Malala Yousafzai as un-Islamic, DawnNews reported.
The scholars issued a combined ‘fatwa’ (Islamic ruling) in Lahore which said that the Taliban’s interpretation of Islam was incorrect and was deviant from the actual interpretation of the Shariah.
The fatwa added that Taliban were misguided and their mindset was driven by ignorance.


Islam does not stop women from acquiring education and by attacking Malala the Taliban have crossed the limits of Islam,” the fatwa added.
“Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) had regarded the sanctity of Muslim’s life and property more important than the sanctity of the ‘Kaaba’ (sacred Muslim place),” adding that the fatwa stated, “Murder of one innocent human being is equivalent to murder of entire humanity.”
The Islamic ruling added that United States was the enemy of Islam and Pakistan; any kind of cooperation with the US was not in compliance with the Shariah.


In response to Taliban’s interpretation of killing females for the greater good of the religion, the scholars said that Islam discourages killing of the females. Adding that, they said, “Even apostate women are not allowed to be killed in Islam.”


The assassination attempt on the life of the young National Peace Award winner has drawn widespread condemnation from the government, political parties and civil society groups, terming it a bid to silent voice for peace and education.


The banned militant organisation Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) had issued a statement Wednesday, using Islamic Shariah to defend the attack.
Pakistani Taliban had said that although they do not believe in attacking women, “whom so ever leads a campaign against Islam and Shariah is ordered to be killed by Shariah.”


TTP spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan had argued that it is “not just allowed … but obligatory in Islam” to kill such a person involved “in leading a campaign against Shariah and (who) tries to involve whole community in such campaign, and that personality becomes a symbol of anti-Shariah campaign.”
Malala had won international recognition for highlighting Taliban atrocities in Swat with a blog for the BBC three years ago, when the Islamist militants burned girls’ schools and terrorised the valley.
Her struggle resonated with tens of thousands of girls who were being denied an education by the militants across northwest Pakistan, where the government has been fighting the local Taliban since 2007. - DAWN
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Don't know if it means anything, but still good that Molvi's are coming out against Taliban, people need to to shown the truth about the Taliban by a source that people still believe.
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Don't know if it means anything, but still good that Molvi's are coming out against Taliban, people need to to shown the truth about the Taliban by a source that people still believe.
Pure BS they only believe what they want to believe otherwise molvi jab veena ko bolta hai ulta osko Kut partee hai LOL
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Pure BS they only believe what they want to believe otherwise molvi jab veena ko bolta hai ulta osko Kut partee hai LOL
I don't know he you choose not to believe it, but there are alot, I mean alot of people who still believe what Molvi's have to say!
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I don't know he you choose not to believe it, but there are alot, I mean alot of people who still believe what Molvi's have to say!
and they already know its not right am just laughing on the hypocrisy of retards like Altaf hussain and ET commentators who demands molvi to do something and on every other thing they blast molvi
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My question is, "Who are the Talibans"?

1. The cave men who want to indulge their version of Islam upon us?

2. Traitors who sold themselves for few dollars to our enemy and are now involved in terrorist activities through out Pakistan?

3. Angry tribesman who are out there to take revenge and settle the score for their loved ones killed by the drone attacks?

4. Directly involved foreign agents who are hiding behind those masks in the slaughtering videos?

5. A mix of all of the above?


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and they already know its not right am just laughing on the hypocrisy of retards like Altaf hussain and ET commentators who demands molvi to do something and on every other thing they blast molvi
that's not what they are saying.

They are saying what I've heard so many people said before. The Molvis in Pakistan must determine their direction, whether you are with Pakistan or with anti-state elements. There is nothing wrong in asking that after what has happened, and what's being happening for years. I asked the similar question few weeks back. The right wing of Pakistan must determine their direction. Are they still willing to sympathize with the murderers of innocent Pakistanis? Choice is in their hand.

If they continue to do so or even hesitant from condemning anti-state elements and killers, then let us make our choice as Pakistanis for survival of Pakistan. And they may not like our choice then, but all I say is better be prepared because when they had the choice they didn't choose to side with Pakistan.
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that's not what they are saying.

They are saying what I've heard so many people said before. The Molvis in Pakistan must determine their direction, whether you are with Pakistan or with anti-state elements. There is nothing wrong in asking that after what has happened, and what's being happening for years. I asked the similar question few weeks back. The right wing of Pakistan must determine their direction. Are they still willing to sympathize with the murderers of innocent Pakistanis? Choice is in their hand.

If they continue to do so or even hesitant from condemning anti-state elements and killers, then let us make our choice as Pakistanis for survival of Pakistan. And they may not like our choice then, but all I say is better be prepared because when they had the choice they didn't choose to side with Pakistan.
Mate this is false premise u demand from molvi this but every chance these guys get they ridicule same molvi. U can't have ur cake and eat it too. The ulema council of pak has came out long before and called suicide bimbing unislamic, so did ulema all over the world no one posted that news, same fatwa have been issued against terrorism, no one paid any attention and keep harping why muslims been quiet.

Mufti naeemi is one example and i can quote u fatwa after fatwas post 9/11 till today.

I tot pak problem was fatwa issuing molvis? Now we need fatwa? I have said it before and I stand by the fatwa issuing should be brought under state control, no one should be allowed to give fatwa except a grand all pakistan ulema council that should have all fiqh represented and should debate and post, everyone else issuing fatwa should be stopped. Thats why we get retard fatwas.

Put it this way today we get fatwa that the attack on gals is haram (God knows why we need fatwa for this since its patently obvious) who its gonna benefit? Lets assume ppl who listen to these fatwa needs it so that don't get confuse by talibaan, what if tom same group issue fatwa that govt is haram and its incumbent on us to overthrow it, then? how many sane ppl will follow that fatwa?

Bottom line there are enough fatwas out its not like we need a fatwa, Imam-e-kaaba been lecturing abt it since yrs, Alazhar has issued, so has mufti-e-azam, even tahir-ul-padree. Alqaeda and affliates like TTP don't recognize them, those who follow molvis know that already, those who don't follow for them it doesn't make any difference.

U can't ridicule molvi and then ask him to issue fatwa
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Yes, because she is the one that flies the drones. Oh wait...

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That pretty much sums up the thread. Being a dead brain walnut allows them to be used by RAW / Mossad / NSA / TSA / Khad / Mukhabarat? for those on this forum to be such inclined. How come any israelis don't defect to syria or egypt unlike the pilots who flew in with their migs in the past?
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Yes, because she is the one that flies the drones. Oh wait...



That pretty much sums up the thread. Being a dead brain walnut allows them to be used by RAW / Mossad / NSA / TSA / Khad / Mukhabarat? for those on this forum to be such inclined. How come any israelis don't defect to syria or egypt unlike the pilots who flew in with their migs in the past?
start talking about israel again when we forgot that ISI is an angel.
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