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Old 09-19-2012, 02:27 AM
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French ban protest against anti-Islam video

France to ban prophet film protests | Irish Examiner

Now this is messed..

People SHOULD have the right to peacefully assemble and protest. Really stupid, and doesn't help anyone.
As pointless, juvenile and silly the protests might be, they should have a right to do it..
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you see the French might be seeing this from a political poin of view. Already you have got CIA and M16 very active in libya and syria and as result you see total lawlessness and the choas as a result.

Now the CIA are the worst kind of munafiqs. Who is giving the gaurantte that CIA is not going to start a fitna in france on the pretext of a Muslim protest and cause proper jungle style chaos ? Any gauranttees ????

So this one rule I dont see it as against Islam but the previous ones like against hijaab are pure religious discriminations.
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France to ban new prophet film protest

PARIS (AP) — France's leadership is barring a planned protest by people angry over a film produced in the United States that insults the Prophet Muhammad, but are defending a newspaper's right to publish caricatures of the prophet.
France's foreign minister said security is being stepped up at some French embassies amid tensions in France and elsewhere around the film "The Innocence of Muslims." French authorities and Muslim leaders urged calm in the country with western Europe's largest Muslim population.
Riot police took up positions outside the Paris offices of a satirical French weekly that published crude caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad on Wednesday that ridicule the film and the furor surrounding it. The provocative weekly, Charlie Hebdo, was firebombed last year after it released a special edition that was "guest edited" by the Prophet Muhammad and took aim at radical Islam. The investigation into that attack is still under way.
Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault said that organizers of the planned demonstration Saturday against the film "Innocence of Muslims" won't receive police authorization for the protest.
Ayrault told French radio RTL on Wednesday that "there's no reason for us to let a conflict that doesn't concern France come into our country. We are a republic that has no intention of being intimidated by anyone."
A wave of protest has swept some Muslim countries over the amateurish video posted online. The total number of deaths linked to unrest over the film is at least 28.
In Paris, prosecutors have opened an investigation into an unauthorized protest last Saturday around the American Embassy that drew about 150 people and led to scores of arrests.
The tensions around the film in France provoked debate about the limits of free speech.
Ayrault emphasized that the freedom of expression was guaranteed in France, but said it "should be exercised with responsibility and respect."
Satirical, small-circulation weekly Charlie Hebdo often draws attention for ridiculing sensitivity around the Prophet Muhammad. Its website was down Wednesday, but it was unclear why.
Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, speaking on France Inter radio, said Wednesday, "In France we have freedom of expression, very well, this principle must not be infringed." But he added, "Is it pertinent, intelligent, in this context to pour oil on the fire? The answer is no."
He said that he had "sent instructions to all countries where this could pose problems, we are taking specific security measures."
An umbrella group for French Muslims, the CFCM, issued a statement expressing its "deep concern" over the latest Charlie Hebdo caricatures and warned that "in a very tense context, it risks exacerbating tensions and provoking reactions."
It urged French Muslims to "not cede to provocation and ... express their indignation in peace via legal means.

France to ban new prophet film protest - Yahoo! News
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Looks like they just want to keep having fun with Muslims. They don't want the protests to die off by themselves. They know that banning the protest will simply add fuel to the fire and it will only grow stronger.
Keep on protesting and keep acting like puppets.
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Already a thread on this yaar

French ban protest against anti-Islam video
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Old 09-19-2012, 05:31 AM
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U should merged the closed thread with this same day they banned protests they allowed this : France to shut embassies over cartoons - Europe - Al Jazeera English

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The weekly carries a total of four cartoons which include images definitely intended to represent the Prophet, as opposed to any other Muslim. In two of them, the Prophet is shown naked.

The cover of the magazine shows a Muslim in a wheelchair being pushed by an Orthodox Jew under the title "Intouchables 2", referring to an award-winning French film about a poor black man who helps an aristocratic quadriplegic.

But the explict, arguably vulgar, nature of the drawings made it inevitable they would cause offence.

Charlie Hebdo editor told Al Jazeera that its website has crashed after it was hacked.

'Freedom of expression'
Ayrault said anyone offended by cartoons could take the matter to the courts but made it clear there would be no action against the weekly.

"We are in a country where freedom of expression is guaranteed, including the freedom to caricature," he said.


"If people really feel offended in their beliefs and think there has been an infringement of the law - and we are in a state where laws must be totally respected - they can go to court," Ayrault said.


He also said a request to hold a demonstration in Paris would be refused.

France's interior ministry has already banned all protests over the controversial video following a violent demonstration last weekend near the US embassy.


Charlie Hebdo's editor, Stephane Charbonnier, has defended the cartoons.


"I'm not asking strict Muslims to read Charlie Hebdo, just like I wouldn't go to a mosque to listen to speeches that go against everything I believe."
Yep freedom of expression but you can't protest the fucking hypocrisy is awesome
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^^good idea..merged.
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Old 09-19-2012, 07:07 AM
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hmm... would the muslims leave france and go back to their own countries? isn't that one of the reasons behind the french ban of protest?
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hmm... would the muslims leave france and go back to their own countries? isn't that one of the reasons behind the french ban of protest?

What do you mean 'their own countries'?

If a person has been born and brought up in France, with his parents French born too...why is France not his/her country?

Even if they weren't born there, why would it not be their own country now if they're residents of it?!

Xenophobic statement.
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france is quickly becoming a laughing stock. A xenophobic, islamophobic country, and hypocritical too.
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We Muslims should do something about it. We got the Qur'an the guidance, a miracle book. sure we can.
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hmm... would the muslims leave france and go back to their own countries? isn't that one of the reasons behind the french ban of protest?
maybe they are jealous because Islam is growing.
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What do you mean 'their own countries'?

If a person has been born and brought up in France, with his parents French born too...why is France not his/her country?

Even if they weren't born there, why would it not be their own country now if they're residents of it?!

Xenophobic statement.

I'm not talking about the people that are born in France.
The residency was given to the immigrant to obey the law in France.
Also they have the authority to exile whether you are born there or not. Even more, take away their citizenship.
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I'm not talking about the people that are born in France.
The residency was given to the immigrant to obey the law in France.
Also they have the authority to exile whether you are born there or not. Even more, take away their citizenship.


Then what about the second or thrid generation of french people whose parents came over from muslims lands and settled here ?

Surely you can say that the first generation should be deported (which I would disagree with anyway but just taking your point of view). But how can you say that about the secodn or third generations who have been natralized into french citizenship and civil life ?

Just because someone is a muslim and practicing his religion does not give the right to non muslims get him kicked out of that country.

That would be religious discrimination.

If those same second and third generation citizens were christains, jew, atheist or any other religon : i think there would have been no problem.


First of all You can be a muslim and follow your faith and be a law abiding citizen as well. There is no proof that to be a good muslim you have to break the laws of that country. The Quran has warned against this behaviour - The Prophet has established a famous example by signing the contract of hudaibeeyah and followed the contract to every word and letter even though it was against the muslims. Why ? Becuase on the day of judgement you as a muslim will be held accountable if you even broke the citizenship conidtions stated in your passport - because that passport/citizenship is also a form of contract between you and the Government of that time.

So if you are a muslim then that should give you a reason to be motivated to follow the sunnah of your Prophet and be a good law abiding citizen.

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