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Old 08-05-2012, 06:02 PM
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Govt in a fix over Syria regime change

Govt in a fix over Syria regime change – The Express Tribune

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Pakistan finds itself in a fix over its support for a regime change in volatile Syria. The move has angered Iran, while drawing support and encouragement from Saudi Arabia.

As Syria descends further into chaos, the Saudi king has scheduled a summit of leaders from the Islamic world this month, where President Asif Ali Zardari is scheduled to represent Pakistan.

The Alawite regime in Syria, led by President Bashar al Assad, is considered to be one of Iran’s crucial allies in the Middle East, while Saudi Arabia and the rest of the Sunni Arab states, backed by the United States, are making efforts to see the ouster of the beleaguered government there.

This equation, according to diplomatic sources, presents a daunting task for Pakistan striving to maintain the delicate balance in its relationship with both Iran and Saudi Arabia.

Sources said that Iran was unhappy with Pakistan’s support for a recent UN Security Council resolution against the Syrian regime. The move indicated Islamabad’s stance on an issue that could have far-reaching implications.

Tehran also voiced its displeasure through diplomatic channels on Pakistan’s participation in the upcoming extraordinary summit of the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation (OIC).

A key point on the agenda of the Saudi-convened OIC moot is to garner support of member states from across the Muslim world for a regime change in Syria.

“This OIC summit is a US-backed Saudi initiative to isolate Iran,” said Dr Ishtiaq Ahmed, Jinnah fellow at the Oxford University, London.

Reports indicate that the US along with Saudi Arabia, Turkey and other Sunni Arab countries are backing the Free Syrian Army (FSA) rebels fighting the Assad regime.

“If efforts were aimed at seeking regime change through force then we need to be very careful.” Dr Ishtiaq added.

Speaking on condition of anonymity, a Foreign Office official said Islamabad had backed the recent resolution by the UN Security Council after its main demands were met.

The official explained that Pakistan has made it clear that it will not support any military intervention. However, Islamabad is under pressure from Saudi Arabia to adopt a clearer stance on Syria. Sources said that recently Riyadh released $100 million in grant money for Islamabad, in what appears to be a way to lure Pakistan into supporting Saudi efforts.

President Zardari not only willingly accepted the invitation last week to attend the conference but his media office also issued a statement praising the role of King Abdullah as a ‘visionary’ leader in the Muslim world.

To allay Iran’s concerns, his associates said, the president sent Senate Chairman Syed Nayyer Bokhari to Tehran to assure Iranian leaders that Pakistan might not go too far in supporting the Saudi plans.Meanwhile, policymakers in Islamabad fear Pakistan would have to bear the brunt of any future Arab-Iran conflict in the form of segmentation of its society on sectarian lines.

“We need a balanced and workable approach to avoid any negative fallout from the ongoing situation,” said one official.
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Pakistan should make her stance clear, no regime change via force, opposition must come to table for negotiation. all sides must cease all hotilities and come on negotiation table. This is the only way out of this, the hypocrisy of KSA led Sunni arab states is appalling pakistan must keep its distance, on the other side Iran must stop using shia population of other countries as leverage.
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^yes ALL SIDES....assad and his family should be prosecuted for war crimes on their own people for 40 years, as well as prosecuting the opposition who have committed crimes...
i am sure the assads won't come ot the negotiations table after that..
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^yes ALL SIDES....assad and his family should be prosecuted for war crimes on their own people for 40 years, as well as prosecuting the opposition who have committed crimes...
i am sure the assads won't come ot the negotiations table after that..
both sides have committed war crimes that wat u get in civil war, its either keep fighting and get more ppl killed or call it truce.
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both sides have committed war crimes that wat u get in civil war, its either keep fighting and get more ppl killed or call it truce.
except one side has been killing by the thousands for over 30 years...exhibit A the Hama massacre in 1982...
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except one side has been killing by the thousands for over 30 years...exhibit A the Hama massacre in 1982...
that was hs father, anyway what will this accomplish, its a stalemate, KSA Turkey, Qatar with west been fuelling it to what point? Even if they topple the government there is enough support for alwalites and partners to continue the civil war roles will only change today's opposition would be govt and today's govt would be opposition, more bloodshed and with alqaeda getting another foothold.

I seriously don't understand how syrians benefits with continue violence wouldn't it be better to have negotiated settlement?

And why should Pakistan pick a side? We lost east pakistan, have seen militant uprising in baluchistan, sindh and FATA, we rightly call out external forces backing these insurgents and then we gonna side with same in another country really?
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why should syrians settle? asad should be hanged in public. tyrannical bastards the lot of em. anyone who refuses to condemn asad should take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and question what they stand for. one things for sure, you wouldn't be silent if these atrocities were being committed against your family.
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why should syrians settle? asad should be hanged in public. tyrannical bastards the lot of em. anyone who refuses to condemn asad should take a good hard look at themselves in the mirror and question what they stand for. one things for sure, you wouldn't be silent if these atrocities were being committed against your family.
If they were then will deal with them myself. Its not neighborhood phadda, its abt what Pakistan should do. U have sympathy for rebels, thats fine but that shouldn't be official Pakistan stance, Pakistan must stay and appear neutral and should just push that all parties should cease hostilities and negotiate.

The article is abt Pakistan's stance at foreign policy level has nothing to do with who is right or wrong in Syria. So lets stick to the point, shall we?
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Anti-Israel - Golden heights support of Hizbullah, Israel would love to see them fall but more imp see Syria in chaos without any stable govt.
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so is that why USA govt may be supporting the uprising against Asad's regime?
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so is that why USA govt may be supporting the uprising against Asad's regime?
Mostly Shia Sunni phadda, US and west had np while in Iraq war they were asking Syrians to take the so called prisoners of WOT and "interrogate" them all of a sudden they again champion of human rights.
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not necessarily....they lost the golan heights in '67 ...never really truly attempted to get it back....they are also widely believed to be responsible for the assassination of Rafiq Hariri....nobody is saying that the opposition are angels but this is how it works....something has to give for the assads to go....they have been ruling for 40 years..sultan ibne sultan ibne sultan...kahan ka insaaf hai?
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not necessarily....they lost the golan heights in '67 ...never really truly attempted to get it back....they are also widely believed to be responsible for the assassination of Rafiq Hariri....nobody is saying that the opposition are angels but this is how it works....something has to give for the assads to go....they have been ruling for 40 years..sultan ibne sultan ibne sultan...kahan ka insaaf hai?
mate what justice has to do with international affairs? We should look at it from Pak perspective we must not be seen as siding with either side cuz bioth sides can effect us internally.
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mate what justice has to do with international affairs? We should look at it from Pak perspective we must not be seen as siding with either side cuz bioth sides can effect us internally.
i am not saying we should side with anyone openly, but some kinda token statement about how the bloodshed must stop is needed...unfortunately that is how diplomacy works....

Nonetheless on an individual level, I am not saying whoever will come in will be an angel but these kleptomaniac, brutal tyrants need to go.....jo khalq-e-khuda kai upar musallat hain...
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