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cyborg909 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-09-2012, 11:28 PM

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cyborg909 · #2 (**permalink**) 10-09-2012, 11:34 PM

Agree with his strategy on drone, agree with SWAT was mishandled though am 100% sure it was deliberately mishandled, just like lal masjid.

So his stand on TTP is since he has ppl in the region who could be targetted easily he can't clearly lay out the stand? Because I still can't understand what is anti-terrorism strategy?

Fact is FATA area comes under Presidency not PM or NA, so even if IK gets elected as PM he has no say, so what is the 1st step dere? Wouldn't it make sense that 1st step should be abolishment of FCR and complete integration in Pakistan via status of these areas to be elevated as province, make each agency a province?

AHMAD\ · #3 (**permalink**) 10-10-2012, 04:14 AM

In my opinion, and that's just my opinion Neither Sawat was mishandled nor was Lal Masjid. Any faction which go against the writ of Govt. and try to form a state within state should not be tolerated under any condition. Events happening these days are a clear proof that negotiation path would've yield nothing even though in Sawat, Govt. at that time initially complied with the demands of insurgents, and provided them their favored Nizam-e-Adl. That yield nothing as those militants marched to Margalla hills and were barely 60 Kms from the capital, which was enough proof to determine their actual intentions. Not to mention, the atrocities and human rights violations they carried out in the Sawat area under their hold. Sawat operation was completely justified and based on that a full fledge Army operation is due in Vana and Waziristan area as well. It will be about drone attacks later, but first it's about survival of Pakistan. Even after Malala Yousufzai incident, if people think that there is any room for restraint against them then I strongly opine against it. But I am also well aware of the faction in army which is militant sympathizers and definitely the main reason of restraint against full operation against militants. These are the same people who give way to internal infiltration of militants in army, which in the past has resulted in attacks on Mehran Base and GHQ. Bottom line army must determine the route it has to take, whether to keep sympathizing with militants or to fight for the survival of country.

cyborg909 · #4 (**permalink**) 10-10-2012, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by AHMAD\

In my opinion, and that's just my opinion Neither Sawat was mishandled nor was Lal Masjid. Any faction which go against the writ of Govt. and try to form a state within state should not be tolerated under any condition. Events happening these days are a clear proof that negotiation path would've yield nothing even though in Sawat, Govt. at that time initially complied with the demands of insurgents, and provided them their favored Nizam-e-Adl. That yield nothing as those militants marched to Margalla hills and were barely 60 Kms from the capital, which was enough proof to determine their actual intentions. Not to mention, the atrocities and human rights violations they carried out in the Sawat area under their hold. Sawat operation was completely justified and based on that a full fledge Army operation is due in Vana and Waziristan area as well. It will be about drone attacks later, but first it's about survival of Pakistan. Even after Malala Yousufzai incident, if people think that there is any room for restraint against them then I strongly opine against it. But I am also well aware of the faction in army which is militant sympathizers and definitely the main reason of restraint against full operation against militants. These are the same people who give way to internal infiltration of militants in army, which in the past has resulted in attacks on Mehran Base and GHQ. Bottom line army must determine the route it has to take, whether to keep sympathizing with militants or to fight for the survival of country.

Mishandled in a sense that the problem was allowed to fester and become so big that we needed operation. It should have been handled right at start at police level.

The full operation can't be taken even if army determines it will, cuz of terrain and logistical issues. We still havent fully secured south, Mehmood still havent returned, no one talks about IDP's still out of agencies.

On the other hand we can't just sit on our collective asses and do nothing. There were hints and some news that Military has taken out the attackers which attacked bases i.e planners. So i guess we have to restore to commando style action, military still using jets to pound the hideouts.

IK does have an argument which military already using of local laskhars, i guess we need to intensify in that directions.

AHMAD\ · #5 (**permalink**) 10-10-2012, 04:29 AM

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Mishandled in a sense that the problem was allowed to fester and become so big that we needed operation. It should have been handled right at start at police level.

The full operation can't be taken even if army determines it will, cuz of terrain and logistical issues. We still havent fully secured south, Mehmood still havent returned, no one talks about IDP's still out of agencies.

On the other hand we can't just sit on our collective asses and do nothing. There were hints and some news that Military has taken out the attackers which attacked bases i.e planners. So i guess we have to restore to commando style action, military still using jets to pound the hideouts.

IK does have an argument which military already using of local laskhars, i guess we need to intensify in that directions.

well the problem is I can't trust army's statements at the moment. I don't know if the person or wing delivering those news/developments to public is serious about eradicating this issue. I don't know how much of what they say is true and how much is just for 'show' that they are really doing something. I believe army is capable enough to do operation, but internal opposition is stopping them from taking action. This is all what late Saleem Shehzad laid out in his investigative report.

lashkar system hasn't been successful. I think it was again to put a 'show' that we are doing something instead of seriously intending to do something.

and POLICE to yaar, mA. It's better to not say anything bout them.

cyborg909 · #6 (**permalink**) 10-10-2012, 04:54 AM

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well the problem is I can't trust army's statements at the moment. I don't know if the person or wing delivering those news/developments to public is serious about eradicating this issue. I don't know how much of what they say is true and how much is just for 'show' that they are really doing something. I believe army is capable enough to do operation, but internal opposition is stopping them from taking action. This is all what late Saleem Shehzad laid out in his investigative report.

lashkar system hasn't been successful. I think it was again to put a 'show' that we are doing something instead of seriously intending to do something.

and POLICE to yaar, mA. It's better to not say anything bout them.

well i can tell you there is fierce opposition to North waziristan operation and there are sound reasoning behind it. Anyway no operation would be successful till we have the border sealed cuz these fuckers will just slip across.

The political leadership idologically is in such corrupt state that no one believe a word they say, otherwise they could come fwd and take the mantle to lead to consensus.