they are, but they have no hope of winning until the imams join them and promote peace. its not like they actively condone what taliban does, but they just do not vehemently oppose it like they need to do in order to set the record straight. call it a crime, and tell these misguided youth that there are no virgins to be gained in heaven by committing these heinous deeds. only by being direct and brutal can we reach the masses, who are easily brainwashed and largely unable to think for themselves. that is why they have been so easily swayed by the radical right. even those that disagree with them will not vocally oppose them out of fear. that's why the real jihad has to come from the top and work its way down to the masses.

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As long as CIA keeps funding and arming TTP. Things will happen in the future as well. The religious leaders have done enough by giving out a fatwa of kufaar against suicide bombing and suicide attacks. And as a reason one religious scholar in lahore(i think mufti/imam naeem was the name ??) himself was killed in a suicide attack becuase being part of the council that passed.

So abusing and cursing the religious leaders of Pakistan is not only immorally disgraceful but also a defeatist mentallity of running away from reality and not solving the problems.

On matters like these I always support Imran Khan: we have to get out of this war. Publicly declare that we(pakistanis) have got nothing to this war-on-terror. And thus we are pulling out and will not support americans in it. The Govt does this there would be no more reason for Jihad left. Becuase the extremists use this as an excuse for doing jihad under the guise of amreican dollars and weapons.

Thats why I believe 2013 is so important for Pakistanis to vote for Imran khan that this is the only chance we have got to remove extremism and terrorism from Pakistan and move forward with an efficient government.

And before getting a hysterical spasm fit attack read the entire post and get some medication for spasm fits.

we have more to gain from "war on terror" than anyone else in the world. we cannot negotiate with these (&(^*&^)_* instead they have to be lynched in public like they want to do to innocent pakistanis. hell no we are not leaving this war. they have killed over 30,000 innocent pakistanis, and we shall not rest until every last one of them is dead and buried. absolutely no negotiating with them, and no conceding defeat to them. we just need to make pakistanis understand that this is not americas war, this is not britains war, this is PAKISTANS WAR.

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while I agree on religious parties point I strongly disagree with highlighted part.

TTP has publicly stated they want pakistan to be so called "islamic state as per their version. Which is totally wrong under Islamic teaching TTP are not asking for shariah they asking for thier twisted version. They refuse to accept Pakistan legitimate govt, elections as islamic which is not correct, once again I would like to quote that 2 most important part of an Islamic state is establish salat and zakat, which the govt does, by paying khateebs and establishing zakat system (albeit not fully with lot of defects) and Pakistan constitution explicitly state that Pakistan is islamic country where no law shall be made contrary to Quran and Sunnah, whether state fullfill it (it doesn't) is neother here nor there, as long state has a commitment to it any insurgency (read arm conflict) against state is fasad fil ard and not khuroj hence haram, irregardless of greivences.

TTP and al-qaeda has no right to impose thier understanding by gun point, they can always form a political party and try convincing ppl to vote them in power.

Secndly when TTP rejects state of Pakistan it then admits it has become a threat to state of pakistan which has every right to deal with threat as it sees fit, Imran Khan is wrong, you can't talk with animals you can talk with reasonable ppl which Al-qaeda or TTP are not. If they have an issue with US occupation they can always take thier fight and keep it in afghanistan, targetting pakistanis is no justification.,

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Way to speak like a brainwashed white guy. Keep it up. Zara haqqeqat pe be ajo

kindly enlighten us then....

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These terrorists did not even care for the sanctity of one of the holiest nights of Ramazan. They attacked the Kamra Airbase and killed a soldier. Our condolences go out to the family of the brave man killed protecting his country. We congratulate the Pakistani military for foiling the attack and killing the terrorist with minimal damage to the base. Our prayers are with those who were injured, including the base commander. We wish them a quick recovery.
Terrorists are the biggest enemy of the state today. They want to see an unstable and defeated Pakistan. We stand with Pakistan in solidarity against all forms of terrorism and support them in their quest to bring peace in the region.

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The way TTP acts, they only strengthen these guys missions...

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oh i see, 30000 innocent pakistanis killed by the taliban and we should invite them over for chai parathas? give me a break! ttp is the biggest threat facing pakistan, but problem is people like you dominate pakistani thinking. if it were up to me, they'd all be lined up and shot, just like they do to our innocent civilians.

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The self delusion continue prevailing the mindset of ill informed Pakistanis.

If you are so certain, bring the proof.....well you don't have one, so you keep aggrandizing your propaganda and keep giving way to terrorists to safe heavens.

Religious leaders have done enough ...sab Topi Drama. Jo Pakistan gaya ho, woh kabhi is tarah ki non-sense se agree nahi karega.

Religious leaders and platforms have done NOTHING. NOTHING as in ZERO, SIFAR....which ever language is easy for you to understand. They are still sympathizers and voice of Talibans in Pakistan. I was in Pakistan last JUNE and it's not a hidden fact that Talibanization of that society is in full affect. I am not talking about far away Qasba aur bastis of Punjab and KP, I am talking about Karachi and Lahore. Har deewar pe wall chalking, har masjid main galat khitab, har madarsah main pomfelt, only says about how much sincere these religious parties are against Talibans. The moderates have been put to the wall, and if they raise voice against oppression they were killed. And who fear killing people when their acts are safeguarded by the very own Supreme Court of Pakistan. Shia Killing, Qadiani Killing, Foreigners Killing is like the norm. I have seen people crying in the hands of these oppressors. Is this what Islam is? If Religious leaders and their followers were any sincere, then Army wouldn't have been extraditing Talibans from their Madarsahs. Only one scholar Molana Sarfaraz Naeemi spoke against Suicide Bombing, and he was put to sleep by Taliban, mind you he wasn't even a main stream political voice. No other religious leader had since said anything. DPC, SIC, Lashkar-e-Jhangvi and what not all are Taliban Sympathizers and there is no condemning of their association by any religious Party. Any day in Pakistan the religious parties are always ready to hold LONG MARCHES, TRAIN MARCHES, DHARNA, RALLY, BALWA etc, when will be the time when they do one against Talibans. In last 10 years, show me one example of any gathering where religious leaders of Pakistan came out together and openly condemn suicide bombing and show solidarity with the state....You can't because it never happened. These are Fascist oppressors who have hijacked the society of Pakistan and spreading & supporting a FAKE version of ISLAM thanks to the funding coming from Saudia Arabia. That issue aside, I question the loyalty of these QABIZ Fascist to Pakistan. Their loyalty should be brought to question at every public forum, because they are supporters of anti-state elements and are active in spread of anarchy and sectarian violence.

Jab tak Religious leaders aur parties extremism aur talibanism ka parchar karti rahain gi, Pakistan main Aman Qaiym ho hi nahi sakayga. We have to defeat the extremist mindset. Why don't JI, PTI and JUI and other religious parties of Pakistan say anything against the continual vindication of Malik Ishaq from Pakistani Courts? Zardari ko 10 laanatain, aur Talibaan ko phol aur haar....wah bhai, bohut nirali hamdardi hai Pakistan se. Pakistani society is in a state of struggle against these Fascist Mullahs. Pakistan na inho ne banaya tha na hi in ke liye nahi bana tha, Is liye I don't even consider them Pakistanis. Afsos to apne logoon per hai jo in ke haathoon biktey hain jo 15, 16 saal ke bachoon ko suicide bombers aur militants bana detay hain. Kya yeh Pakistani hain?? Kya yeh Musalman hain?? Nahi, to Phir inhay religious parties ki support kyun??

Immorally disgraceful and defeatest mentality...leave that son when you are not even able to show 2 inch of maturity in accepting the ground realities.

Imran Khan, though a hope for Pakistan, but he has chosen a wrong pathway by siding with the extremist. He will not get anything from the true patriots of Pakistan, the moderates. He has shown that he cannot be the answer to this big issue which is threatening Pakistan's core stability. Lahore main Imran Khan ko Taliban Khan kaha ja raha hai...and you are believing that somehow he'll bring change...Get a grip on reality sir.

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Will the Eriye be repaired or a write off? From what i heard, there was fuselage damage or to the landing gear?

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I guess you go blind when thousand's of pathans are killed for no reason at all. With the constant army pressure on them. Also the stinking drone strikes. Why don't you be a little understanding. Instead of trying to push your ideas 100 MPH. Listen to others as well.