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To the naysayers of Dr. Abdus Salam
While Scientific Community at CERN has confirmed the presence of Higgs Boson Particle ( some calling it The Particle of God) by the
experiment conducted in huge round 147 kilometer long tunnel at the border between France and Switzerland; it is claimed to be the
biggest scientific discovery of this century and in parallel to man stepping on moon, few people are acknowledging that it was first
in 1967 theorized by PROFESSOR ABDUSSALAM of Pakistan and STEVEN WEINBURG and both were given the Noble Prize for it.
This particle will help in understanding " How this Universe was formed).
Last night Stene Weinburg was present at the ceremony declaring this great breakthrough, but Pakistan Prof. Abdussalm was
not there as he died in Pakistan more than a decade ago.
How much Pakistanis are poor, busy in the quagmire of terrorism, yesterday they were busy in criticizing Pakistan decision of
opening NATO supply to Afghanistan...probably they don't remember even what Prof. Abdussalam had theorized and world calling it
the biggest discovery of this century...Professor Abdussalam behind it.
Even the Jang Daily news paper writing this news didn't mention Professor Abdussalam but mentioned the other Scientist only. Pity this nation.
Another thing I want to share with you people; there are about 30 Pakistani scientists working at CERN at the moment, when this experiment is being conducted.
Good Day!
For clarification please read the following article:
http://www.iampleasant.com/2011/12/t...93-why-bother/
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30 sceintist was mentioned by pakisatni news agencies. The theory mentioned higgins and bose and Ian Stien didnt hear Dr. Abdussalam mentioned any where in any news.
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30 sceintist was mentioned by pakisatni news agencies. The theory mentioned higgins and bose and Ian Stien didnt hear Dr. Abdussalam mentioned any where in any news.
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abdussalam was responsible for postulating part of the Grand unification theory in particle physics...specifically i think the weak force part....the higgs boson particle is central to that theory...i think that is what ahmad is getting at.
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07-05-2012, 04:30 PM
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abdussalam was responsible for postulating part of the Grand unification theory in particle physics...specifically i think the weak force part....the higgs boson particle is central to that theory...i think that is what ahmad is getting at.
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30 sceintist was mentioned by pakisatni news agencies. The theory mentioned higgins and bose and Ian Stien didnt hear Dr. Abdussalam mentioned any where in any news.
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even if he was the father of our nuclear program you still would not respect him, so hardly surprised you're underwhelmed by his link to higgs boson.
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07-05-2012, 05:13 PM
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even if he was the father of our nuclear program you still would not respect him, so hardly surprised you're underwhelmed by his link to higgs boson.
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yaar see u ka masla yeh he when did i say i didn't respect him? I asked a qts from ahmed cuz i geniuenly didn't know and all i have read abt dr. abdussalam nothing was mentioned abt any link to god particle. even this time was mentioned the work of indian scientist who wrote to Einstein. Now asking a qts means im disrespecting him?
BTW i still don't understand why the title say naysayers? I mean this is 1st i come to know abt Dr. Abdussalam role and apart from tribune no one else mention anything abt him anywhere in world press and ur assertion of no respect and father of nuclear programs has to do what?
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yaar see u ka masla yeh he when did i say i didn't respect him? I asked a qts from ahmed cuz i geniuenly didn't know and all i have read abt dr. abdussalam nothing was mentioned abt any link to god particle. even this time was mentioned the work of indian scientist who wrote to Einstein. Now asking a qts means im disrespecting him?
BTW i still don't understand why the title say naysayers? I mean this is 1st i come to know abt Dr. Abdussalam role and apart from tribune no one else mention anything abt him anywhere in world press and ur assertion of no respect and father of nuclear programs has to do what?
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Your query has been explained well by maverick, I don't have to explain further. Please for further confirmation read the link as well that I've posted.
And naysayers means naysayers. There are a lots of them in Pakistan who are jaahil enough to not acknowledge him, and wants to continue their way of professing religion where religion has nothing to do in this matter. It's a matter of national pride and he should be given the highest regard for his services for the country. More than that given to Dr. AQ and Dr. Salimuzzaman Siddiqui. But Jaahil aisa honay nahi dengay...jo samajhtay hain Dr. Salam ki Qabar kushi karnay se koi ma'arka sar ho jaiy ga. Stupid, Morons.
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Your query has been explained well by maverick, I don't have to explain further. Please for further confirmation read the link as well that I've posted.
And naysayers means naysayers. There are a lots of them in Pakistan who are jaahil enough to not acknowledge him, and wants to continue their way of professing religion where religion has nothing to do in this matter. It's a matter of national pride and he should be given the highest regard for his services for the country. More than that given to Dr. AQ and Dr. Salimuzzaman Siddiqui. But Jaahil aisa honay nahi dengay...jo samajhtay hain Dr. Salam ki Qabar kushi karnay se koi ma'arka sar ho jaiy ga. Stupid, Morons.
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He has bene given Nishan-e-Pakistan (sitar-e-Pakistan) in 1979 and b4 that Sitar-e-Imtiaz. Nishan-e-Pakistan is highest civil award. So what u complaigning abt?
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He has bene given Nishan-e-Pakistan (sitar-e-Pakistan) in 1979 and b4 that Sitar-e-Imtiaz. Nishan-e-Pakistan is highest civil award. So what u complaigning abt?
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Respect. It's a matter of Respect. Not so hard to understand.
Giving two name badges doesn't mean in anyway that he is respected by people of Pakistan. It's the action which has to show Respect and Appreciation. Well...by creating propaganda, the Action shows everything but respect and appreciation.
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Respect. It's a matter of Respect. Not so hard to understand.
Giving two name badges doesn't mean in anyway that he is respected by people of Pakistan. It's the action which has to show Respect and Appreciation. Well...by creating propaganda, the Action shows everything but respect and appreciation.
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Ahmed Im seriously not understanding, I am not trying to be difficult but I really am not understanding what you trying to say? On Govt level he has been awarded highest civilian award and most ppl in pak do know abt him being a noble laurete, don't see anyone bashing him for anything in pak, there are chairs in uni and colleges being established in his name.
Once again am not trying to be difficult or argumentative am genuinely trying to understand what is the issue?
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cyborg you are just playing dumb. you know that abdus salam was despised because of his faith instead of being celebrated as a pakistani because of his achievements.
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cyborg you are just playing dumb. you know that abdus salam was despised because of his faith instead of being celebrated as a pakistani because of his achievements.
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in 1979 he was given nishan-e-pakistan which was post the constitution amendment declaring qadiyani non-muslim and Zia was incharge. So how he was despised? I mean u have zia in charge?
I have not heard anyone reviling despising dr. abdussalam in pakistan as a person or scientist if it is the case plus give me a link.
It is true unlike Dr. AQ Khan he has not enjoyed name recogniton, but its not because of his faith but with history of two persons and the work they did.
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in 1979 he was given nishan-e-pakistan which was post the constitution amendment declaring qadiyani non-muslim and Zia was incharge. So how he was despised? I mean u have zia in charge?
I have not heard anyone reviling despising dr. abdussalam in pakistan as a person or scientist if it is the case plus give me a link.
It is true unlike Dr. AQ Khan he has not enjoyed name recogniton, but its not because of his faith but with history of two persons and the work they did.
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Dude, are you kidding me?
Are you trying to say that what happened against him at Karachi University and Punjab University during his lectures was nothing. Are you justifying such acts by saying that "not heard anyone reviling despising dr. abdussalam in Pakistan"?
I am not trying to be difficult either. I am just asking for respect for him from all corners of Pakistan, for what he has done for the nation as a PAKISTANI, nothing else. Don't wanna politicize the argument but had to mention that the guy who brought Pakistan the greatest (and so far the only) recognition in the field of Science was abused so disrespectfully in our education institutions that no one with such distinct recognition has ever experienced that by own countrymen. His grave was subjected to abuse and vandalism, where as the other guy who did nothing but desecrate the constitution of Pakistan, overthrew an elected Government, bore seed of a cancer in the society in the name of Islamization (products of which we are still harvesting), brought Kalashnikov and Heroin culture....that guy who should have been hanged was actually given space in the yard of Faisal Masjid. In fact let me correct it, has been enshrined at Faisal Mosque.
It shows the demise of collective intellect of our people of how they understand the concept of "service for the country" how conveniently they value the true contributions for the country.
Very shameful!
And at your second statement, you truly made me laugh by suggesting it was not because of his faith but because of work. So you are suggesting that work done by dr. abdussalam was inferior to that of dr. AQ?
Keep it up bro, if you think that way.
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for many pakistanis, "service to the country" represents what qardi did a few months ago
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Dude, are you kidding me?
Are you trying to say that what happened against him at Karachi University and Punjab University during his lectures was nothing. Are you justifying such acts by saying that "not heard anyone reviling despising dr. abdussalam in Pakistan"?
I am not trying to be difficult either. I am just asking for respect for him from all corners of Pakistan, for what he has done for the nation as a PAKISTANI, nothing else. Don't wanna politicize the argument but had to mention that the guy who brought Pakistan the greatest (and so far the only) recognition in the field of Science was abused so disrespectfully in our education institutions that no one with such distinct recognition has ever experienced that by own countrymen. His grave was subjected to abuse and vandalism, where as the other guy who did nothing but desecrate the constitution of Pakistan, overthrew an elected Government, bore seed of a cancer in the society in the name of Islamization (products of which we are still harvesting), brought Kalashnikov and Heroin culture....that guy who should have been hanged was actually given space in the yard of Faisal Masjid. In fact let me correct it, has been enshrined at Faisal Mosque.
It shows the demise of collective intellect of our people of how they understand the concept of "service for the country" how conveniently they value the true contributions for the country.
Very shameful!
And at your second statement, you truly made me laugh by suggesting it was not because of his faith but because of work. So you are suggesting that work done by dr. abdussalam was inferior to that of dr. AQ?
Keep it up bro, if you think that way.
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I am old enough and still don't recall the incidence of Dr. Abdussalam but i don't dispute it, I won't be surprised if that has happened we have done everything to everyone in our history that it wont surprise me, i can start from molvi mukarram who was beaten and doned a jotoon ka haar in dhakk uni to assassinations of elected PM's to ghunda gardee and blood shed in Universities across the pakistan. None of the incidents means that all pakistanis are like that.
I didn't mean that dr. abdus salam work was less, i meant nature of work, most ppl cant connect with his important work but can easily understand guy who gives us atom bomb its just human nature.
Also i would submit that Dr. Abdussalam left the country in protest that does play a large role in his recognition.
Taali do haath se bajtee hai, we can all sit and laments the intellectual levels in Pakistan but do realize dosre ka bhi thora shayad qasoor ho?
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