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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Sen. Barack Obama vowed Wednesday that Jerusalem must "remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided."

"Any agreement with the Palestinian people must preserve Israel's identity as a Jewish state, with secure, recognized and defensible borders," the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee said at the annual conference of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, an influential pro-Israel lobbying group.

"Jerusalem will remain the capital of Israel, and it must remain undivided," Obama said.

The Palestinians also want Jerusalem to be the capital of their own country. United States policy has long been intentionally vague on the status of Jerusalem. The U.S. Embassy in Israel is in Tel Aviv, not Jerusalem.

Obama opened his speech to AIPAC by paying tribute to his rival, Sen. Hillary Clinton, calling her an extraordinary public servant who had made history alongside him in their 16-month race for the party's presidential nomination.

Obama clinched the nomination Tuesday night, but Clinton did not admit defeat in her speech after the polls closed.

Some Clinton supporters have begun to campaign for her to get the vice-presidential slot on Obama's ticket. Both campaigns deny that discussions on the subject have begun.

Obama also directly addressed accusations that have been circulating by e-mail.

"I want to say that I know some provocative e-mails have been circulating throughout Jewish communities across the country," Obama said.

"They're filled with tall tales and dire warnings about a certain candidate for president. And all I want to say is -- let me know if you see this guy named Barack Obama, because he sounds pretty scary."

Rumors have been circulating at least since last year that Obama is a Muslim and does not support the Jewish state. He is a Christian and said at the conference he is a "true friend of Israel," earning applause.

In his AIPAC speech, Obama also clarified a story he told last month that prompted a barrage of criticism from Republicans.

"My great uncle had been a part of the 89th Infantry Division -- the first Americans to reach a Nazi concentration camp. They liberated Ohrdruf, part of Buchenwald, on an April day in 1945," Obama said.

Last month, he said an uncle had helped liberate the Auschwitz concentration camp, which was in fact liberated by the Soviet army.

Source: http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/...pac/index.html
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u think hilary wud serve us better?

dety r american politicians...not paki...end of day..who gets elected wud only effect their internal businesses...der deaings with outsiders is never changing
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O bhai he is an American citizen running for an American office. He is supposed to seek the best interest of USA. Agar woh muslaman hota bhi to pehlay Amreeki hota phir mussalman.

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^^ Aakhir maan gaye hona.... haina Pakistani aik "Pagal" qome ?
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And Hillary is an even bigger supporter of Isreal. That's why she does even better than Obama with the Jewish votes.
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no american president will ever say anything against israel. the best thing obama can do for the situation is back the US away from the issue, and encourage other countries to act as neutrals in the negotiations.
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Firstly, one must congratulate Sen. Obama for pulling off something that no one had ever thought possible in American politics; a black man destined to be on a presidential ticket.

I know he was speaking at AIPAC, but some of his language goes to show that all of his PR spin about "changing" foreign policy is nothing but a smokescreen.
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"We must isolate Hamas unless and until they renounce terrorism, recognize Israel's right to exist, and abide by past agreements," he said of the Palestinian group opposed to Israel. "There is no room at the negotiating table for terrorist organizations."
The sentence in bold is a clever way to lay the groundwork for any future presidency. to avoid speaking to any country whom America deems as a terrorist or rogue state, he can point back to this speech and say hey, even in the campaign I said I'd never talk to terrorists.

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"I would be willing to lead tough and principled diplomacy with the appropriate Iranian leaders at a time and place of my choosing if, and only if it can advance the interests of the United States."
... which obviously (and by his own admission) are intertwined and even dependent on the interests of Israel. Another backdoor left open for him to exit the building when it comes to any real change in policy.

Obviously McCain would be nothing less, but that's to be expected. It's no secret that McCain represents a continuation of many policies. It's Obama who has set the bar higher on his own by promising change.

Remember when he said you need a president who isn't afraid to tell people what they need to hear, and not what they want to? If he wants to use diplomacy to convince foreign governments, the training wheels would be pitching a new plan of action to lobbyists at home. If he isn't willing or gutsy enough to try and sell a change in Mideast policy to lobbyists (whom he promised he will undercut), then how can we expect him to introduce any real change in an Obama presidency?
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GO OBAMA GO , I just hope for america's wellbeing that u r a true Chrishtian otherwise i pray to Shivji that Maccain must win the race
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