Baitullah was there own agent. And why does it surprise you that CIA or MI6 not turning against there own assets ? Baitullah was no good to them anymore. Plus taking him out would take away the harbouring suspicions in peoples minds about baitullah being CIA's pawn.

Did you even knew baitullah was released from Gitmo on the only condition that he will work for CIA. lol

Yet it doesn't help them to kill their own agent all others would then say why work for CIA? Hakimullah Mehsud was seen in 2 videos, 1 with suicide bomber that took out Station Cheif of CIA in afghanistan with scores of other and other with Faisal Shehzad trying to target NY.

Its not CIA thats targetting them and having them their agents its Northern Alliance and RAW.

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ok Fasial shezad was CIA's pure false flag. So no need to waste time on that.

Secondly I only heard about Baitullah. ANd that was also long time ago. So if i can dig up the info i would share it with you.

Thirdly The americans are patrolling the afghan side of the border and Pakistan Army/Rangers are patrolling this side....so all that info about TTP very easily crossing borders back and forth is false.

Fourthly, During the past 5 or 6 years on countless occasions Pak Army has seized american weaponary. Remember karachi's fire that couldnt be put out till 4 days ??? Then it was discovered by forensics that the fire was agrivated by a chemical powder manufactured and used to keep fires alive. Now this powder was captured from TTP some months before Karachi fire. And this powder is only manufactured in the Indian state of tamil nadu (i think). The bags of powder caught from TTP had the name of the manufactering company and the name of that indian state.

Fiftly, how did all that american weaponary got transported to TTP when americans are ever watchful of the borders from their side ?

Now can't you join these dots ? Do you really think Pak Army is so spineless that they can't take them out if they are not being supported and funded by CIA ???

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1 - Was not false flag they couldn't count on street vendor to be that alert.

2 - Americans have withdrawn completly 2 yrs ago when they made the surge from patrolling afghan side of border, infact they have even removed all remote check points.

3 - If its only found in TN how is that american weaponary, furthermore just like in USSR war in afghan it was norm for mujaheedeen to have russian arms they snatched, stole or were left behind by retreating army.

4 - Missing NATO containers in Pakistan SC is hearing that case for couple of years now.

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fake bomb- what kind of a bomb starts to go up in smokes before blowing up ? False flag.

Yet still incidents like salaala happen ? What were american and nato forces doing on border when they had withdrawn completely ?

Those weapons captured from TTP were not USSR they were amercian. And at that time CIA was funding Mujehideen with loads of waepons..so capturing USSR waepons didn't even acount for 1/4.

The americans(media sources) themsleves claim that Afghan Taliban are getting even less than half donations in the name of jehad. Which would not be enough to cover for 3/4 waepons for them in afghanistan. So how come TTP would get any share from that if the Afghan taliban can't even suffice their own requirements ? Obviously through some other source...as you said yourself the missing containners. And who made those containners missing so conviently?was the Pak Army? ISI or CIA ?

So CIA basically making arms container get lose inside Pakistan that means Pak state is either incompetent or is in the know. U don't make sense.

Try to understand the issue and for this you have to look how USSR used afghan and raw agents in 80's inside pak. Same thing happening now am not defender of US but blame them for things they do. Its afghan intelligence i.e Northern Alliance with Raw that been behind TTP not US, what US is doing simply looking the other way.

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very interesting take on the situation. Well my only grudge is that US is punishing us for their failures in afghanistan: whether they are using indians northern alliance or whoever. The master puppetier is the CIA.

And my grudge is becuase Pakistan was never ever the reason for american failure in afghainstan and it is totally unfair after having so much scarificed we have become on the recieving end.

They (US) lost in afghanistan simply becuase previous superpowers have come here and failed from alexandar the great to british empire to the USSR and now the americans. And Pakistan should not pay the price for it. The americans should have done some homework before entering this region.

Then we should not complaint abt US but fix our problems ourselves. Pak paying the price because we decided to be transit route and helped topple Taliban, why we did that?

Post 9/11, Canada invoked Article 5 of NATO declaring an attack on any NATO member is attack on all which became the basis of NATO invasion of Afghanistan. Turkey is a NATO member, but refused to allow NATO forces via its territory. There are other Central Asian countries with border with Afghanistan, none of them decided to become part of this, Pakistan on the other hand caved on one phone call.

“The fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves if we are underlings.”

William Shakespeare

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lol at blaming the usa.

yes, because having a stable pakistan guided by imran khan is somehow against US foreign policy interest....

oh wait...a stable pakistan means easier access to afghanistan and less concern about our nuclear capabilities falling into the wrong hands. last i checked those were two huge priorities for the US. so why exactly would they want imran khan killed? waiting to hear some good chat patti bollywood plot line, let's hear it!

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Why Stable Pakstan would be in US interest? I have argued abovecthat TTP is not suported by US so u cant blame me Im accusing US, but I reject the notion that a stable Pak is in US interest, going by IK statement Pak will only allow access to Afghanistan to ISAF to go back not to stay in, so how is compatible with US interest who have signed the agreement to have permanent bases with forces upto 20,000?

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i just told you why a stable pakistan is in their interest

1.) a stable country would make it easier for the US to have an influence in the area. pakistan shares borders with three countries that are hot on the US foreign policy trail: iran, afghanistan, and china. stable relations with pakistan would make it easier for the US to keep track on all three of those. it might not be via armed troops, but certainly it's a lot easier to share intelligence with an ally than a country you are constantly having doubts about which side they are on.

2.) us and uk have made it their mission to ensure that nuclear weapons are safeguarded. i think this is pretty ridiculous since the us is the only country to have ever used nukes, but alas, that's the world we live in. it's no secret that out of all the countries that have nuclear weapons capabilities, pakistan is the most unstable. i don't think nukes will ever fall into the wrong hands, but that's the perception the rest of the world has and there is no smoke without a fire. we are a largely lawless country where mob mentality rules and seemingly anything is possible. a stable pakistan would greatly reduce this threat, however legitimate it may be.

why do you think this is not in US interest?

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F the Taliban can someone get these fuckers out of Pakistan

so we should have stable govt to again be puppet of US and keep tabs for US against the three countries LOL, Pak would side with China as its already doing against US.

I should define the word stable, so u can understand my point, it would have to be a moronic state which would want Pak state to be unstable to such degree that it creates anarchy or civil war, no state even India would want to see that, but a manageable unstable pakistan where there is some state writ but which has weak institutions is prefer to everyone so they can influence it easily.

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only in the eyes of pessimists and those who choose to adopt a victim mentality.

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only in the eyes of realists

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