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05-24-2009, 12:46 PM
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Violence mars strike against IDPs’ arrival in Sindh
* Three killed, 15 vehicles burnt in separate incidents
* Karachi traders claim suffering losses of Rs 2.5 billion due to strike
By Razzak Abro and Faraz Khan
KARACHI: At least three people were killed and several vehicles burnt as riots erupted throughout the city during a strike to protest the en masse arrival of internally displaced persons (IDPs) from Malakand division.
Organised by the Jeay Sindh Qaumi Mahaz (JSQM) party, the strike had been supported by the Muttahida Qaumi Movement (MQM), forcing almost all major shopping centres, businesses and schools to shut down. Garden District Police Officer Ejaz Hashmi told Daily Times that six people had been detained for their involvement in the death of a woman after they set fire to a mini-bus. He said two of the accused were affiliated with the JSQM, adding an FIR had been registered on behalf of the driver of the bus.
Identified as Amna, a mother of 11, the deceased was burnt alive after she could not escape the burning bus. A second death was reported after unidentified men opened fire on a local restaurant. The victim, Sajid, died on the spot while his friend, Nadeem, was injured. The third casualty was a result of unidentified persons opening fire on moving traffic in Liaquatabad.
Losses: Despite increased deployment of both police and Rangers, youth riding motorcycles torched at least 15 vehicles throughout the city, including several buses, two water tankers and a motorcycle. East Zone Deputy Inspector General Zafar Abbas Bukhari said police had arrested 12 men attempting to set fire to cars and shops. A Rangers spokesman said they had detained six culprits and seized weapons from their possession. Meanwhile, the Karachi Traders Action Committee released a statement claiming city traders had suffered losses of Rs 2.5 billion due to the strike.
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Complete shutter down against IDPs influx into Sindh
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05-24-2009, 12:58 PM
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What a disgrace!!!!! Aint surprised at all though, may be you were expecting better out of the ganja bros but not me.
I would however be curious what Immy has to say about it. Or would he chose to stay silent.
Punjab not to allow IDP camps
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Fortunately, that so called news was just a shot in the fire to make some noise. It held no truth whatsoever; considering how controversial and discriminatory it was yet not a single news channel or any other newspaper except The News, gave a mention to it let alone receiving any criticism by famous critics. Tells us a lot about its validity. However, what we're seeing now is the reality, its the ugly truth and Immy heard you and decided to speak up.
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Imran criticises IDPs entry ban in Sindh
Published: May 24, 2009
LAHORE - Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf Chairman Imran Khan has condemned the Sindh government’s decision to deny entry to the IDPs into the province on the pretext of registration before entry.
According to him, this was unconstitutional as citizens of Pakistan cannot be denied entry into any part of their country, nor can they be asked to register on entering another province.
In a statement issued here on Saturday, Imran Khan said that thousands of IDPs were stranded at Kashmore while the Sindh government, under pressure from coalition partner MQM, denied them access to a part of their own country.
“It is shameful that the MQM is not ready to shoulder the responsibility alongside its partner the PPP of the fallout from this ill-timed and ill-planned military operation. Altaf Hussain’s newly-discovered love for military operations in order to please his foreign masters - in contrast to his earlier condemnation of the military operation in Karachi in 1992 - is totally devoid not only of any humanity, but also of principles,” he said.
The IDPs have lost their homes, their crops, their future, because of the present government’s greed for US dollars and it is unacceptable that the provincial leadership of Sindh now deny them basic shelter and access to territory that is as much a part of their country as it is of the people already living in Sindh. Imran found it totally unacceptable that at a time of such human tragedy, the response of the MQM-PPP coalition in Sindh was turning the crisis into a potential ethnic conflict. He urged the present leadership to immediately allow all IDPs their constitutional rights as Pakistanis to move freely across this country with no barriers created such as registration. He called on the government to re-assess the rationale for the military operation - including the untenable strategy of using heavy artillery and aerial bombardment which is leaving countless innocent citizens dead in its wake, alongside millions stranded in the war zone.
Imran criticises IDPs entry ban in Sindh | Pakistan | News | Newspaper | Daily | English | Online
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05-24-2009, 02:07 PM
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Ilzam Punjab ko daitay thay...Qusoor apna nikal aya.(For Das-Boot)
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05-24-2009, 02:16 PM
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but contrary to what the punjab government ruled,
No ban on IDPs’ entry into Sindh: Qaim
NOWSHERA: Sindh Chief Minister Syed Qaim Ali Shah has said his government is keen on helping out the displaced persons from Swat, Dir and Buner, as camps have been established in the province and the process of registration is going on in full swing.
Rejecting reports about the ban on the entry of the IDPs into Sindh as propaganda, Qaim Ali Shah said the Sindh government would not abandon the Pakhtuns in this hour of need. He said one of Sindh’s coalition partners had reservations about allowing the entry of the IDPs into the Sindh province but “we will abide by our hospitality tradition.”
The Sindh chief minister said this while handing over a cheque of Rs 70 million from the Sindh government and 50-trucks loaded with relief goods from the Pakistan People’s Party, Sindh chapter, to the NWFP Chief Minister Ameer Haider Hoti at the Risalpur Engineering Centre on Saturday.
No ban on IDPs’ entry into Sindh: Qaim
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05-24-2009, 02:16 PM
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Ilzam Punjab ko daitay thay...Qusoor apna nikal aya.(For Das-Boot) 
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True  
Das Boot Anti-punjab
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05-24-2009, 02:39 PM
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bass punjab sindh ke phaddey karaane ko deydo tum logon ko.
Komal, you are so immature.
The ban from Punjab was fake,
The ban from Sindh was fake.
Stop lighting fire for no reason.
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05-24-2009, 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by sameer_k88
bass punjab sindh ke phaddey karaane ko deydo tum logon ko.
Komal, you are so immature.
The ban from Punjab was fake,
The ban from Sindh was fake.
Stop lighting fire for no reason.
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Immature was that fella who jumped up and down with pure joy at that fake ban! And yeah IDP ban in Sindh is not fake, be little mature and accept that...I know I'm asking for a lot but still. You know exactly who's lighting the fire for what reasons.
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05-24-2009, 02:58 PM
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IDP's in Sindh
Sunday, 24 May, 2009 | 07:23 AM PST | It is disturbing that the tragedy is assuming an ethnic dimension in Sindh.
At a time when the item at the top of our agenda should be the alleviation of the miseries of hundreds of thousands of people displaced from Swat and Fata, it is disturbing that the tragedy is assuming an ethnic dimension in Sindh.
If IDPs are fleeing their homes, they have no choice as their land is now a theatre of war. According to estimates, 1.5 million have become homeless in the last few weeks with a considerable number having come down to Sindh, mainly Karachi which has a sizable Pakhtun population. It is a pity that this influx has given rise to a strong reaction from the MQM and Sindh’s nationalist parties that are disturbed by any event that has the potential of upsetting the province’s ethnic balance. It is, however, important that in this hour of crisis the humanitarian aspect of the matter is not lost sight of. IDPs are entitled to economic assistance and social protection under international law and to all the rights the Pakistani constitution grants them, including the freedom of movement within the country.
Seen in this perspective, is the MQM right in demanding the compulsory registration of all IDPs and confining them to camps that do not even exist? Though one may understand the concerns of the local population a large chunk of which is poor and disadvantaged, this is not the time to start a debate on who is entitled to live where. Registration of IDPs is a ameasure that offers many procedural advantages. It facilitates the organisation and management of camps for the displaced. But it must be voluntary and for the specific purpose of providing relief and temporary rehabilitation and not for restricting movement. In the absence of camps many displaced people have sought refuge with family and friends who were already living in Sindh to earn their livelihood. In these circumstances the proposal for mandatory registration will be viewed with suspicion. The ANP has been registering IDPs to provide them relief. Over 4,000 families have been registered. It would relieve tensions if the Sindh and city governments, which include the MQM, also extended a helping hand to the IDPs.
It is ironic that the MQM, whose forefathers were provided sanctuary in Sindh in 1947, and the Sindhi nationalists, whose ancestors welcomed the ‘refugees’, should now be rejecting the IDPs. Fears that the displaced will not return home are unfounded. To equate them with the Taliban is another act of brazen prejudice. There is no denying that militants may have sneaked into the city but then Karachi has suffered violence at the hands of terrorists of every hue. Would it not be more feasible to adopt a policy that relies on effective intelligence, policing and de-weaponisation to weed out the terrorists in the city?
http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/...in-sindh-hs-02
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05-24-2009, 05:30 PM
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IDP's in Sindh
Sunday, 24 May, 2009 | 07:23 AM PST | It is disturbing that the tragedy is assuming an ethnic dimension in Sindh.
At a time when the item at the top of our agenda should be the alleviation of the miseries of hundreds of thousands of people displaced from Swat and Fata, it is disturbing that the tragedy is assuming an ethnic dimension in Sindh.
If IDPs are fleeing their homes, they have no choice as their land is now a theatre of war. According to estimates, 1.5 million have become homeless in the last few weeks with a considerable number having come down to Sindh, mainly Karachi which has a sizable Pakhtun population. It is a pity that this influx has given rise to a strong reaction from the MQM and Sindh’s nationalist parties that are disturbed by any event that has the potential of upsetting the province’s ethnic balance. It is, however, important that in this hour of crisis the humanitarian aspect of the matter is not lost sight of. IDPs are entitled to economic assistance and social protection under international law and to all the rights the Pakistani constitution grants them, including the freedom of movement within the country.
Seen in this perspective, is the MQM right in demanding the compulsory registration of all IDPs and confining them to camps that do not even exist? Though one may understand the concerns of the local population a large chunk of which is poor and disadvantaged, this is not the time to start a debate on who is entitled to live where. Registration of IDPs is a ameasure that offers many procedural advantages. It facilitates the organisation and management of camps for the displaced. But it must be voluntary and for the specific purpose of providing relief and temporary rehabilitation and not for restricting movement. In the absence of camps many displaced people have sought refuge with family and friends who were already living in Sindh to earn their livelihood. In these circumstances the proposal for mandatory registration will be viewed with suspicion. The ANP has been registering IDPs to provide them relief. Over 4,000 families have been registered. It would relieve tensions if the Sindh and city governments, which include the MQM, also extended a helping hand to the IDPs.
It is ironic that the MQM, whose forefathers were provided sanctuary in Sindh in 1947, and the Sindhi nationalists, whose ancestors welcomed the ‘refugees’, should now be rejecting the IDPs. Fears that the displaced will not return home are unfounded. To equate them with the Taliban is another act of brazen prejudice. There is no denying that militants may have sneaked into the city but then Karachi has suffered violence at the hands of terrorists of every hue. Would it not be more feasible to adopt a policy that relies on effective intelligence, policing and de-weaponisation to weed out the terrorists in the city?
DAWN.COM | Provinces | IDPs in Sindh
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where did MQM come in between this :s
this is some sindhi party JQSM or something who are creating a fuss...
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05-24-2009, 06:08 PM
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Ilzam Punjab ko daitay thay...Qusoor apna nikal aya.(For Das-Boot) 
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Lol iss me itna personal kiyun hona hai mujh se? 
Btw I do disagree with mqm supporting jsqm and you can see that post in the forum.
Anyway, what does miscreants torching buses have to do with IDPs?
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05-24-2009, 08:52 PM
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It so damn ironic, MQM supporting JQSM. They're supporting the exact racial discrimination they once experienced, they're opposing the exact notion of symapthy and support they once experienced.
Seems like we may get rid of bunch terrorits demanding their version of Sharia but I guess we're creating a generation who would be fighting for a separate state all together.
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05-24-2009, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Das Boot
Lol iss me itna personal kiyun hona hai mujh se? 
Btw I do disagree with mqm supporting jsqm and you can see that post in the forum.
Anyway, what does miscreants torching buses have to do with IDPs?
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Oh noooooooooooooo, are you sure?? 
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05-25-2009, 01:21 PM
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Komal is becoming more and more like Manra II day by day. a sad observation.
making it more and more khi and sindh vs the rest day by day
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05-25-2009, 01:41 PM
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Komal is becoming more and more like Manra II day by day. a sad observation.
making it more and more khi and sindh vs the rest day by day
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A sad observation by an equally sad person.
Accusing me and name calling me won't cover the fact that you're running from reality! Nor your attempt to neglect the real issue in hand by making pathetic posts giving a good picture of yours. I know you have nothing better to say, so just sit there and make sad observations. Situation is already very sad as it is, thanks to some well supported rascals.
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05-25-2009, 03:54 PM
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Every Pakistani is and should be allowed to go and live anywhere within Pakistan. It is our right. That fact was reiterated by PM Gilani recently aswell. Wheras IDP's relief camps are concerned the Federal Govt wants too, and i believe effictively keep them nearby Swat. So they can return when the operation has ended.
Wheras people moving to Sindh or Karachi, they should be perfectly allowed to. Unfortunatly the MQM sense that they are either losing grip to their city with lots of Pashtuns coming in, or maybe they just feel its the right time to start these ethnic clashes and try to get a grip on the Pashtuns. Nothing surprising by their tactics.
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