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03-28-2008, 03:21 AM
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World Bank: Pakistan Risks Crisis
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ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (AP) — Pakistan's new government must take urgent action to prevent the country's economy from tipping into crisis, the World Bank warned Thursday.
Praful Patel, a vice president at the bank, said the South Asian country needs to make painful adjustments to higher global prices for oil, commodities and foodstuffs or risk a slowdown.
"There is not yet a crisis, but the economic picture for Pakistan is not good," Patel said. "There is a good economic foundation, but the growth can only continue if Pakistan adjusts to the new global reality."
Patel issued a statement after a three-day visit to Pakistan, which included talks with leaders of the new government taking power after eight years of military rule under President Pervez Musharraf.
Musharraf, who seized power in a 1999 coup, guided Pakistan from the brink of bankruptcy to multiyear economic growth.
A United Nations report released on Thursday said that Pakistan's economy was expected to grow at 6.5 percent this year, despite uncertainty about stability in the country, which faces rising Islamic extremism and a bumpy transition back to democracy.
But some economists warn the current expansion is heavily reliant on a boom in consumer spending and money sent home by Pakistanis working abroad and that the country produces too few high-value exports.
In the short term, there is particular concern about the government's rising budget deficit and a shortfall in the balance of payments. Both are putting downward pressure on the Pakistani currency, the rupee.
Patel noted that foreign investment and remittances have kept pace and that the stock market has posted gains. The Karachi Stock Exchange's benchmark index closed at a record on Thursday.
However, he forecast that the government would miss its targets for the budget and current account deficits as well as for foreign exchange reserves.
The caretaker administration that left office this week had begun reducing subsidies on fuel prices that have bitten deeply into the government's coffers. The new government must decide where to cut spending and is reportedly eyeing the military budget for possible reductions.
The World Bank said its team discussed changes in oil imports, taxation and "prioritization of expenditures."
"Any adjustment will be painful," said Patel. "But there must be an appropriate safety net for the poor." He said that could include direct cash transfers, a mechanism used to relieve people hit by Pakistan's massive 2005 earthquake.
Pakistan's new prime minister, Yousaf Raza Gilani, is expected to announce steps to address the country's problems, including high food prices and energy shortages, when he makes his first policy speech in parliament on Saturday.
"If action is not taken, the economy will start to falter, but with the right policies and strong support from multilateral and bilateral partners, we believe the high growth and poverty reduction path can be maintained in Pakistan," Patel said.
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How do you folks think, the present ruling regime can address the issue of increasing our industrial base? Specially in the light of lack of electricity.
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03-28-2008, 04:06 AM
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Only time will tell how the new government deals with this problem; i already knew that this problem would arise sooner or later.
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03-28-2008, 04:30 AM
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I don't remember anyone pointing this issue out here, except for Maverick. And people here still were of the opinion that it weren't the case and that Pakistan's industrial base is increasing at a phenomenal rate under Gen. (r) Musharraf's tenure. Was it not the case?
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03-28-2008, 04:38 AM
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Maybe the industrial growth that has been mentioned is merely industrial expansion that happened not like a boom in industries?
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03-28-2008, 06:01 AM
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So, the boasts were misleading? If yes, how can we address this issue now? Given we've little or no electricity to begin with.
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03-28-2008, 06:22 AM
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i think i agree with Das Boot. we are still incurring a deficit in exports to imports. its a frightening concept but nobody seems to care in Pakistan. how can we expect to grow faster and keep growing if we're consuming more than we're producing. this is a HUGE problem and i dont know what the government is doing about it. i dont know how a developing nation can contiue to consume and operate at a defecit like this.
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03-28-2008, 06:39 AM
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If we dont have electricity, how do we expect a boom in our industrial base. We have to solve this problem of electricity; i wonder what options does Pakistan have regarding this issue of energy.
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03-28-2008, 06:48 AM
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The fastest (due operational in 2010/11) projects will be Thar coal and IPPs.
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03-28-2008, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Saad
I don't remember anyone pointing this issue out here, except for Maverick. And people here still were of the opinion that it weren't the case and that Pakistan's industrial base is increasing at a phenomenal rate under Gen. (r) Musharraf's tenure. Was it not the case?
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Thanks for the shout out (at least I hope you meant me  )
The problem has always been that we looked good on paper early on because of 9/11 and the increase in remittances. That was always going to be a temporary flow (at least in the volumes that we saw immediately post 9/11).
Second, a liberalization of the economy leads to immediate benefits in terms of greater investment, opening up of more banks generating more deposits. Now if the number of banks is greater than the Minimum Efficient Scale of the Financial sector, (imagine you pay a fixed rent for two showers whether you use them or not, u can never be efficiently using two because you cannot be in two showers at once) then banks start to take more risks to make a higher return for their particular depositors to attract more business. In the absence of a good regulatory framework, this can lead to bad financial management leading to bank closures and lack of trust in the banking system. Third, with all the funds coming in, the government did not look to invest in programs with grassroots benefits such as primary, secondary, and vocational education. We never tax our agriculture because most lands belong to feudals who then are in the parliaments (we could use these taxes to help out the industrial sector).
People kept on roaring about how forex reserves were so high, fact of the matter was that most of the incoming flows were from selling of nationalized industries that were then privatised (UBL, Steel Mill you get the picture). Now those flows have dried up hence the balance of payments crisis. You can only sell so many of your household items before you have nothing to sell off right?
Finally people talked about growth but did not talk about the increase in income inequality in Pakistan and the high inflation rates which made real growth much more insignificant. The lack of policing of the stock exchange further led to problems for industries trying to raise capital. We have managed to strangle our economy with a banker in charge (a banker remember is NOT an economist. an economist is someone like Dr. Mahbub-ul-Haq, who gave the Koreans their 5 year plans in the 60s and 70s they are a growth phenomenon, we kicked him out of office).
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03-28-2008, 09:09 AM
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There is no other Maverick that I know of, at least in here.
The point about income inequality was readily downplayed here and in Pakistan, by suggesting that the trickle down affect of a fast growing economy will take 'time'. Even now, Gen. (r) Musharraf is of the opinion that his economic policies should be continued by the new political setup.
Maverick, if I'm reading it correctly, this issue will directly affect the value of our rupee which in turn will affect the inflation rate in the country. Am I right? If so, the rates of items of daily consumption are only going to increase unless they're heavily subsidized by the government. Btw - it was on tv that Pakistani government's subsidization bill runs at around almost Rs. 300 billion.
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03-28-2008, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Saad
There is no other Maverick that I know of, at least in here.
The point about income inequality was readily downplayed here and in Pakistan, by suggesting that the trickle down affect of a fast growing economy will take 'time'. Even now, Gen. (r) Musharraf is of the opinion, that his economic policies should be continued by the new political setup.
Maverick, if I'm reading it correctly, this issue will directly affect the value of our rupee which in turn will affect the inflation rate in the country. Am I right? If so, the rates of items of daily consumption are only going to increase unless they're heavily subsidized by the government. Btw - it was on tv that Pakistani government's subsidization bill runs at around almost Rs. 300 billion.
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technically if there is downward pressure on your currency (through a balance of payments crisis or otherwise ) that will mean foreign goods or at least foreign inputs for local production will become more expensive and if these higher costs are passed on to consumers by retailers and manufacturers then that will indeed cause inflation. Now the key is to stabilize the rupee and that can be done through the forex reserves for now but the government needs to have a long-term plan in an overall economic sense for the country so as to introduce intrinsic stability in the rupee, otherwise the forex reserve situation will be useless, essentially a stop-gap.
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03-28-2008, 01:49 PM
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Musharaf .. Musharaf .. Musharaf .. !!!!!!
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Spend another year on the roads, rioting marching and calling for strikes, Insha Allah jo bacj gaya hai woh bhi nahin rhaya ga
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Spend another year on the roads, rioting marching and calling for strikes, Insha Allah jo bacj gaya hai woh bhi nahin rhaya ga
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uss saay keya faraq parhata haay .. roti millay naa millay .. CJ bhee restore hoo jayay gaa orr constituation bhee .. yahi dono chezay too ghareeb admi kaa pait bharte haan.
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Exactly !!! Aur jo last 9 years main asmaan sey baatayn karti hui inflation hui hai, ussay tou ghareeb aadmi ka aisa pait bharra k usnay roti khana chorr di, and now many of them just once a day.
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