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Old 04-22-2012, 07:48 AM
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As Salam O Alaikum,

In my opinion all Pakistani's should ask Allah for forgiveness and mercy because whatever is going on in Pakistan is a direct consequence of our sins. Everyday people are dying in mass numbers, we have the most corrupt government, there is no electricity, gas, there is shortfall of almost every essential thing that a human being needs. Our teachers and students cheat on their exams openly. Our police dances on the streets drunk. Allah will not send someone to Pakistan to tell us that we are going on the wrong track rather he is putting us through difficulties to tell us that whatever we are doing is wrong and we must correct ourselves before its too late. Allah does not change the condition of its people until they change it themselves.

WE MUST BRING CHANGE IN OURSELVES BEFORE ITS TOO LATE..

Watch this video in which the Imam talks about it. Share it with friends and families..

He talks about it at 44:15

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indian should not watch this video coz he is only talking about pakistan..lol
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lol...is this another one of those 'repent! the end is nigh' groups....
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^ haha. I'm taking a course on Byzantine history, learned that when muslims invaded their domains in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Anatolia, and the Levant, the archbishop of Constantinople claimed it was because of their corrupt souls too....
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^personally....my faith was shaken to its foundations last year....in khi...during ramadan when bodies were turning up beheaded, drilled, tortured brutally in gunny bags....in ramadan!...and we are taught that shaitan is chained in ramadan.....i guess they should have been chaining us...bodies turning up day and night...muslim on muslim...just because of their ethnicities....sab bakwaas hai yaar...i have lived through these things...its hard to believe in a benevolent god after that.
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The amount of joking going on in this thread, Alone tells us how wrong we are. You people won't even take this serious then you will take nothing serious.
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The amount of joking going on in this thread, Alone tells us how wrong we are. You people won't even take this serious then you will take nothing serious.
It's is not you but shaitan talking. Need to see a maula soon.
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It's is not you but shaitan talking. Need to see a maula soon.

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^personally....my faith was shaken to its foundations last year....in khi...during ramadan when bodies were turning up beheaded, drilled, tortured brutally in gunny bags....in ramadan!...and we are taught that shaitan is chained in ramadan.....i guess they should have been chaining us...bodies turning up day and night...muslim on muslim...just because of their ethnicities....sab bakwaas hai yaar...i have lived through these things...its hard to believe in a benevolent god after that.
So for you to believe in a benevolent God there should be no wrongdoing at all?
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So for you to believe in a benevolent God there should be no wrongdoing at all?

not zero wrongdoing, nobody expects that....but if Allah (SWT) does not intervene in the most holy of months when muslims are slaughtering other rozaydaar muslims....then when else is he going to intervene?....nothing is worse than taking a child from his/her mother like that...for her to see her child in pieces....its horrible.
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As Salam O Alaikum,

In my opinion all Pakistani's should ask Allah for forgiveness and mercy because whatever is going on in Pakistan is a direct consequence of our sins. Everyday people are dying in mass numbers, we have the most corrupt government, there is no electricity, gas, there is shortfall of almost every essential thing that a human being needs. Our teachers and students cheat on their exams openly. Our police dances on the streets drunk. Allah will not send someone to Pakistan to tell us that we are going on the wrong track rather he is putting us through difficulties to tell us that whatever we are doing is wrong and we must correct ourselves before its too late. Allah does not change the condition of its people until they change it themselves.

WE MUST BRING CHANGE IN OURSELVES BEFORE ITS TOO LATE..

Watch this video in which the Imam talks about it. Share it with friends and families..

He talks about it at 44:15



Going by this logic, I guess Allah must be really really pleased with countries with exceptionally good standards of living and stability like the Scandinavian ones like Denmark, Norway, Sweden etc..

Allah prefers secular Denmark, Norway, Sweden then the Islamic Republic of Pakistan I imagine?
Because an omnipotent, omniscient god would care about national borders, and influence geo political conditions as well as look at who is a citizen of which country, and the policies of that country before smiting them with torture and natural disasters?
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^personally....my faith was shaken to its foundations last year....in khi...during ramadan when bodies were turning up beheaded, drilled, tortured brutally in gunny bags....in ramadan!...and we are taught that shaitan is chained in ramadan.....i guess they should have been chaining us...bodies turning up day and night...muslim on muslim...just because of their ethnicities....sab bakwaas hai yaar...i have lived through these things...its hard to believe in a benevolent god after that.
I'm sorry to hear that man. But I agree with your reasoning. Seeing good people suffer through injustice and cruelty always makes one question about how benevolent the god of Abraham really is. I refuse to believe the standard line of justification that 'it is to test your will'...riiiiiight!
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^personally....my faith was shaken to its foundations last year....in khi...during ramadan when bodies were turning up beheaded, drilled, tortured brutally in gunny bags....in ramadan!...and we are taught that shaitan is chained in ramadan.....i guess they should have been chaining us...bodies turning up day and night...muslim on muslim...just because of their ethnicities....sab bakwaas hai yaar...i have lived through these things...its hard to believe in a benevolent god after that.
Hence there is a 'jawab-e-shikwah' for every 'shikwah'....
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