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MalikBhai · #1 (**permalink**) 08-03-2012, 09:52 PM

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This is something not many Muslims are aware of, and this is only a small aspect of the great things that the muslims of the past brought into the society of the muslim world, peace, justice, care and support to those who were not able to support themselves was provided to all citizens of the Muslim lands no matter what race, religion, etc... If you look into the history of the leaderships of the western lands of the past, they were well known for oppressing the people and taxing them more than they could afford, but the Islamic society was the light and a true example of how mankind should live in harmony and peace by following the rules of the Creator, today the west adopts some of the ideas from the times of the Islamic Khilafah (such as the benefits system) without giving the muslims any credit they make it seem like it is a western invention or idea, but the muslim world of the past was the very thing that shaped and brought the positive changes we see in the western world today. [fazzamin]

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User Name · #2 (**permalink**) 08-04-2012, 04:51 AM

The video is absolute bullshit..
Go to 5.30 in the video, where he talks about it being the first time in history there was no formal institution of collecting money and then ensuring it was distributed to various categories of people..
That's horseshit.

You can read about Trajan the Roman emperor who very much had social security programs and child benefits.
Trajan (Roman emperor) : Domestic policies as emperor -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

When he returned to Rome in 99, he behaved with respect and affability toward the Senate. He was generous to the populace of Rome, to whom he distributed considerable cash gifts, and increased the number of poor citizens who received free grain from the state. For Italy and the provinces, he remitted the gold that cities had customarily sent to emperors on their accession. He also lessened taxes and was probably responsible for an innovation for which Nerva is given credit—the institution of public funds (alimenta) for the support of poor children in the Italian cities. Such endowments had previously been established in Italy by private individuals, notably by Trajan’s close friend, the orator and statesman Pliny the Younger, for his native Comum (modern Como) in northern Italy.

cyborg909 · #3 (**permalink**) 08-04-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by User Name

The video is absolute bullshit..
Go to 5.30 in the video, where he talks about it being the first time in history there was no formal institution of collecting money and then ensuring it was distributed to various categories of people..
That's horseshit.

You can read about Trajan the Roman emperor who very much had social security programs and child benefits.
Trajan (Roman emperor) : Domestic policies as emperor -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

When he returned to Rome in 99, he behaved with respect and affability toward the Senate. He was generous to the populace of Rome, to whom he distributed considerable cash gifts, and increased the number of poor citizens who received free grain from the state. For Italy and the provinces, he remitted the gold that cities had customarily sent to emperors on their accession. He also lessened taxes and was probably responsible for an innovation for which Nerva is given credit—the institution of public funds (alimenta) for the support of poor children in the Italian cities. Such endowments had previously been established in Italy by private individuals, notably by Trajan’s close friend, the orator and statesman Pliny the Younger, for his native Comum (modern Como) in northern Italy.

Trajan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Although the system is well documented in literary sources and contemporary epigraphy, its precise aims are controversial and have generated considerable dispute between modern scholars. Usually, it's assumed that the program was intended to bolster citizen numbers in Italy. However, the fact that it was subsidized by means of interest payments on loans made by landowners restricted it to a small percentage of potential welfare recipients (Paul Veyne has assumed that, in the city of Veleia, only one child out of ten was an actual beneficiary) – therefore, the idea, advanced by Moses I. Finley, that the whole scheme was at most a form of random charity, a mere imperial benevolence.[21]

Also Umar did it for all muslims/non-muslims all citizens or non-citizens. It was 1st state based system